Re: Technician Wages

[I brive a dus <alarminstall@xxxxxxx>]

On Apr 19, 3:58 pm, "Mark Leuck" <mle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> "I brive a dus" <alarminst...@xxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:abf7dbdc-5ca1-421e-a6da-3948ac19ae2a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > On Apr 17, 11:54 pm, "Mark Leuck" <mle...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> "Jim Rojas" <jro...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> > That's the same thing. If the customer breaks the Brinks PSA and signs
> >> > up
> >> > with ADT, there is no difference whatsoever. Even if new equipment is
> >> > installed.
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> >> > Replacing the Brinks system violates their PSA with their customer. ADT
> >> > is
> >> > guilty of that every single day. I personally have yet to do this even
> >> > with all the downloads I do on a weekly basis.
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> >> > Brink's authorized dealers are the real threat. With over 100+
> >> > authorized
> >> > dealers that can break ties with Brinks at anytime. This is a problem
> >> > Brinks is avoiding to speak of publicly. I really could give a rats ass
> >> > either way.
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> >> > Jim Rojas
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> >> Oh like 100+ dealers would do that? You could make that case about any
> >> dealer network however it doesn't happen nor will it. Brinks's isn't
> >> speaking publicly because there is nothing to speak about. <
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> > Mark you wouldn't care to guess why the Monkster saw a huge drop in
> > accounts that were originally installed by Patriot, and then 3 years
> > later see those customer names in the Monkster system but after being
> > placed online by another dealer, would you? If you don't believe
> > dealers flip accounts at the end of the original term you're dead
> > wrong.
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> I've seen former dealers go after their old accounts later after they left
> but never go bye bye when the dealers leave <

And I have seen active Monkey dealers flip accounts over to another
company at the end of 3 years, only to use a 3rd company to dump them
back into the Monkster.
It started with American Security in Stamford, CT then on to Patriot
Security, who later became Sentry 2000. From Sentry 2000 they jumped
to SOS Security (An ADT dealer), back to Monkey through PAB/ProLine/
EP.
Many of them have returned to ADT through First Detection and through
RS&I agents.
Ask the old man about the trail we found when I was servicing for you
guys. We're talking blocks of account numbers.
Heck you had a dealer on Long Island who sold the same family 4 or 5
times over the years.
If grand scale account flips didn't take place then Monk would have no
reason to have the receiver and account numbers burned into the
panels, would they?

> The other part of this is the 100+ dealers leaving at once and it's a big
> worry by Brinks, again that won't happen nor is it a worry. Dealers do come
> and go but not in droves<

I never said that their hundred plus dealers would leave at once, nor
do I believe it will ever happen.
Even if it did happen Brinks wouldn't collapse, but that doesn't mean
they're not flipping accounts back and forth.
Dealers do come and go in droves, Mark. For the love of GOD will you
please visit the sales department and ask a few questions before
making statements like this? Dealers go where the money is. When a
program reduces multiples, dealers leave. When a program raises
multiples, dealers sign up. Dealers have about as much loyalty to the
program as the program has to the dealer.

> > Jim may have gone off the deep end (trust me Jim you did. You're out
> > where the buses don't run right now) but he's not wrong on this, nor
> > is he wrong on the commercials.
>
> Drink more kool-aid Tom <

He's not wrong on that one particular commercial, Mark. I know this
for fact, but posting the sources of information is something that I'm
not going to do. You can choose to accept it, or you can maintain your
belief that I'm wrong. Jim is posting a wild guess and it just so
happens his guess is correct.
Do you suddenly have first hand information on this topic or are you
guessing?
Have some more chocolate pudding, but don't spill it on your sneakers
or trash bag.