Re: Technician Wages

["Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jim i am all with you

But here the retirement plan is not controled by the big boss

we have a organisim called CCQ (www.ccq.org) that is in charg of everything
related to construction business, they collect the cash for the retirement
plan, for the medicare plan , vacation (12.5% of pay check) the boss need to
give a report and the cash every month and you can check online if he is
been screwing you, and if he do the ccq can go and open all his booking and
pay you by force...

and thats for all construction business, electricity to plumbing ect..

I know an electrician that got his retirement plan last year , and left at
55 with 4000$ a month, taxe paid...not bad...and that plan will be indexed
and will last till he die, then his wife will have half of it till she die

with that in view maybe you will find that our plan is not that bad...

and one other thing, here we are not attached to a company we can switch
when ever we want all of our stuff follow us, the boss damn know it and they
are not playing games with us





"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de
discussion : x0FNj.14321$bx3.981@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Let's face it. How many techs out there are tired of getting screwed over
> when their company folds, or sells out to a competitor?
>
> Retirement plans are nice on paper, but not realistic in today's fast
> paced world. By the time you are almost qualified to retire, many
> companies are looking for ways to fire you based on non existant job
> performance evaluations, or the mysterious "department cutbacks" excuse.
>
> Pay each tech a flat rate per job or service call, this may equal to
> double or even triple than the national hourly average. This encourages
> production. A tech that installs 2 basic systems a day, should see a $300+
> per day payscale. Service techs should see 40 to 50 percent of the bill,
> less parts. This way, there is no overtime worries, sick day worries, etc.
> The techs are free to work as much as they want when they want. Vacations
> can be scheduled at a drop of a hat.
>
> Set them up with their own IRA, which stays with them for life. A 401K is
> a poor way to save for retirement since it can lose value due to current
> stock market activity. Social Security is a national disaster. By the time
> you are old enough to collect it, it's not enough to live on, let alone
> pay your normal household expenses with it.
>
> Set them up with a 80/20 full healthcare plan. Group coverage, for a
> typical family of 4 will run you $450 per month, which includes major
> medical, and dental.
>
> Have them supply their own tools. Afterall, if it belongs to them, they
> will take better care of it.
>
> Use white fleet style vehicles. Skip the $4000+ custom moving billboard
> paint jobs. It's real tacky. Large print letters and a simple slogan is
> more than enough. Who cares if your vehicle gets entered into SDM
> magazine...really now.
>
> Get everyone in the company a Nextel military grade cell phone, so there's
> no excuse why you can't gat a hold of anyone if a problem arises. They now
> offer unlimited talking plans for $119 a month, it's less if you group a
> bunch of phones together. Now everyone can speak to their families and
> loved ones without having to worry about excessive monthly usage charges.
> That's right, chuck the ICOM 2 way radios.
>
> Make sure every tech dresses the same. This is extremely important to
> customers. Even a long haired southern boy wearing jeans (no holes
> please), a company shirt and hat looks good to a customer if he dresses
> like he is there to work, not to drink beer and shoot pool.
>
> If I left anything out, let me know.
>
>
> Jim Rojas
>
>
>
> Petem wrote:
>> Hi David
>>
>> Dont know about mid west but here in Quebec all technician are in a union
>>
>> and the salary is:
>>
>> for a 1st year tech (less then 2000 hour of experience) 14.75/hr and
>> double time for any amount of hour pass 8 hour a day
>>
>> for a 2 year tech (more them 2000 less then 4000 hour of experience)
>> 17.21/hr and overtime is the same
>>
>> for a 3 year exp. tech (more then 4000 lest then 6000 hr of exp.)
>> 20.89/hr and overtime is the same
>>
>> and for a qualified tech (after he pass an exam to proove his skill, and
>> made more then 6000 hr of experience) 24.58/hr and same stuff for
>> overtime
>>
>> also, they have a retirement plan wich consist of 18% of there yearly
>> salary paid by the boss at 60% and by him at 40%
>>
>> and a medicare plan wich is one of the best plan in force in this
>> province (dental work at 90% paid. drugs paid 100%. glasses paid 100% and
>> a lot more..)
>>
>> they also have short/long term salary insurance in case of accident
>>
>> hope this help
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "David" <daknutsen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>> groupe de discussion : W6yNj.70075$TT4.3221@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Hello everyone. I am  an installation supervisor for a large midwest
>>> security company and I have some question.s First, are there any other
>>> managers or supervisors here that are having problems hiring experienced
>>> techs? If there are, is it due mostly to wages?
>>> The reason I ask is I have been looking to add technicians to my staff
>>> but I am stymied by the wage scale that my company has put together.
>>> They tell me that it is compaetitive but when I make an offer to a
>>> prospective tech, they either decline or quite often, just don't
>>> respond. I have been hiring tech assistants in hopes that someday they
>>> will become more but I need some techs that can hit the ground running.
>>> That having been said, I am going into an operations managers meeting
>>> next Tuesday and although I have compiled statistics from the Bureau of
>>> Labor as well as others, I could use some real hard evidence that we are
>>> in fact not competitve. What I would like to know is how long you have
>>> been in the busines, where you are located and what you make an hour.
>>> According to my bosses, we are in line with other SNA partners.
>>> I made a promise to the other techs when I was promoted to this
>>> posistion that I would not forget where I came from and would fight for
>>> them to my fullest capacity. I am asking for your help, not for me, but
>>> for my technicians and their families.
>>> Thank you for any help you can give me.
>>> David Knutsen
>>>