Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["pyro" <pound.sand@xxxxxxx>]

Thank you for the nice response. Actually I did not come to sell. I thought
is was a discussion group. Apparently my mistake.

This group installs a traditional alarm system. I was just enjoying seeing
especially Robert banter back and fourth. This is what I though new groups
were about. I never went into the general public. I stayed on topic.
Somebody pages ago picked a fight with me and pissed on Sonitrol.

There is a lot of business to be had. All the bad press you throw at
Sonitrol can be found thrown at your system. Nothing is perfect. But quite
frankly please do not spout off that Sonitrol sucks. Because if it does. It
does not suck any worse than yours.

Take care...


"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> pyro wrote:
>> Ok so now you have turn this into name calling... yippe!
>>
>
> Just so you know, if you're going to try to convince anyone here that
> Sonitrol is a
> vialble type of system, you're pissing into the wind. In all the years
> I've been a
> participant in this group the only ones who speak in favor of this
> system are people
> like you, who come here trouting listen-in, as if it were the latest
> and greatest technology.
>
> Like you, everyone who thinks this is a good system talks with the
> enthusiasm that seems like it was born of a sales pitch coming from a
> novice in the trade. You can't imagine how naive and silly you sound
> trying to push something as silly as this product using all the hpye
> and glitter that works on end users .....on people who have more
> experience than you and who've worked in this trade likely longer than
> you've been alive.
>
> Listen-in has been around for a long, long time. If it truly had any
> value what-so-ever, you can be sure that every manufacturer would have
> jumped on the bandwagon a long time ago and certainly would have made a
> much bigger success out of it than Sonitrol has, in spite of all the
> years it's been able to fool people.  Most manufacturers had their own
> version of listen-in and no one used it. It's a pain in the ass for the
> end user, the alarm installer and for the central stations ..... aside
> from it being too easy to sell against it, defeat it and  all it's
> other obvious flaws. Sonitrol has perfected only one thing and that's
> how to sell franchises to gulible people for something that centers on
> a defunct technology.
>
> Sorry, but you look all the fool trying to sell this, in such an
> amatureish manner,  to people who have the understanding, technical
> know-how, experience,  field background, and knowledge, of all the ways
> this kind of system falls short of your hype.
>
> Proved by the fact that they've been able to hang on for so many years,
> the hype works on the end user, fer sure. But you're never gonna sell
> it here. Most installers catagorize it in the realm of the Loxon
> product. Not quite as bad, but in the same category.
>
> If you don't keep trying to push this on people here, and just add your
> experience to the Newsgroup, you'll be OK. Keep pushing this, and
> you're just never gonna make it here. On the other hand, I don't think
> that that was your intention, in the first place. It was rather rude of
> you to make you're entry into a Newsgroup with an advertisement, to
> begin with. And further to that, who the hell did you think was going
> to buy something from Sonitrol, in a group of installers?  That .....
> was rather stupid. So right off the bat, you categorized yourself, and
> then followed it with an argument that you obviously can't win.
>
> Some people just don't know how to act in public. I suggest that you
> just up and leave and don't come back. Otherwise you're going to get
> pretty frustrated here. But, you could stick around too. We could use
> some fresh meat.
>