Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> pyro wrote:
>> Ok so now you have turn this into name calling... yippe!
>>
>
> Just so you know, if you're going to try to convince anyone here that
> Sonitrol is a
> vialble type of system, you're pissing into the wind. In all the years
> I've been a
> participant in this group the only ones who speak in favor of this
> system are people
> like you, who come here trouting listen-in, as if it were the latest
> and greatest technology.
>
> Like you, everyone who thinks this is a good system talks with the
> enthusiasm that seems like it was born of a sales pitch coming from a
> novice in the trade. You can't imagine how naive and silly you sound
> trying to push something as silly as this product using all the hpye
> and glitter that works on end users .....on people who have more
> experience than you and who've worked in this trade likely longer than
> you've been alive.
>
> Listen-in has been around for a long, long time. If it truly had any
> value what-so-ever, you can be sure that every manufacturer would have
> jumped on the bandwagon a long time ago and certainly would have made a
> much bigger success out of it than Sonitrol has, in spite of all the
> years it's been able to fool people.  Most manufacturers had their own
> version of listen-in and no one used it. It's a pain in the ass for the
> end user, the alarm installer and for the central stations ..... aside
> from it being too easy to sell against it, defeat it and  all it's
> other obvious flaws. Sonitrol has perfected only one thing and that's
> how to sell franchises to gulible people for something that centers on
> a defunct technology.
>
> Sorry, but you look all the fool trying to sell this, in such an
> amatureish manner,  to people who have the understanding, technical
> know-how, experience,  field background, and knowledge, of all the ways
> this kind of system falls short of your hype.
>
> Proved by the fact that they've been able to hang on for so many years,
> the hype works on the end user, fer sure. But you're never gonna sell
> it here. Most installers catagorize it in the realm of the Loxon
> product. Not quite as bad, but in the same category.
>
> If you don't keep trying to push this on people here, and just add your
> experience to the Newsgroup, you'll be OK. Keep pushing this, and
> you're just never gonna make it here. On the other hand, I don't think
> that that was your intention, in the first place. It was rather rude of
> you to make you're entry into a Newsgroup with an advertisement, to
> begin with. And further to that, who the hell did you think was going
> to buy something from Sonitrol, in a group of installers?  That .....
> was rather stupid. So right off the bat, you categorized yourself, and
> then followed it with an argument that you obviously can't win.
>
> Some people just don't know how to act in public. I suggest that you
> just up and leave and don't come back. Otherwise you're going to get
> pretty frustrated here. But, you could stick around too. We could use
> some fresh meat.
>
mmmmm, yum yum :-)) I'll second all the above.....