Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["pyro" <pound.sand@xxxxxxx>]

Ok, lets start slowly for you...

Your right Sonitrol is a "listen in technology" that offers "Alarm
verification" and as far the Police are concerned this makes the call from a
Sonitrol central station a higher priority than if your or any other alarm
company called them. This is per the Police departments SOP nor Sonitrol's.

Your Hitler comment is embarrassing... yes, to you.

All alarm companies  have misses,  life sucks. We are the only company
(please enlighten me if there is another) that if we miss we offer our
client up to $5000 in compensation. Not a lot (considering what they might
have lost) but I believe ADT offer the second highest which is $500. What we
can offer is documented proof of over 156,000 apprehensions the Police have
made because of our system. No other alarm company to my knowledge
(including ADT) track this figure.

Lets see, you said "Do you or does anyone really want some central station
operator making a decision about your life and property only by what he or
she hears?" Well actually you do and consider three things...

1) What the central operator is listening to is the perimeter of your
business or home. What that mean is we have advanced notice of the break in.
What that means is that Sonitrol has the capability of calling the Police...
ok are your ready...BEFORE THE BAD GUY GET'S IN.
2) Ok... If I had to rely on something "making a decision about my life and
property" I would probably want to rely on a technology that allows for
someone to evaluate the occurrence and that the POLICE DEEM A PRIORITY,  as
oppose to technology where the only interaction is a central station
operator being notified that a door contact or a motion detector has gone
off (Oh yeah, per Police department door contacts and motion detectors false
over 90% of the time.).
3) Whether you like it or not or personally agree with it or not as far as
the Police are concerned their SOP on call priorities are Police officer in
trouble, armed robbery and "VERIFIED" burglar alarm.  Reacting to a Non
Verified alarm is 7th on the list.

Sonitrol has been in business for over 30 years I am not sure how long MGI
had been around. Sonitrol is Nation Wide with location in Canada  and
Europe. Sonitrol is the 4th largest Alarm company in the country... and only
because only about 25% of our business is residential. We are a Commercial
Security Provider.

Ahh excellent statement about the insurance companies. We live in a
political world. Without politics by now whatever municipality your alarm
company exists in the police would be requiring you offer them "Verified
Notification" of a break in or else they WOULD NOT RESPOND.

Ok, but let's be fair and "unbunch your panties... Everybody make mistakes
traditional systems, Sonitrol even the Police make mistakes... nobody is
perfect. But come on throw me a bone... The traditional door contact /
motion detector systems are a 50+ year old technology. There is really
better stuff out there... the problem... the technology  (Sonitrol's) is
proprietary and Sonitrol limits it's franchises. So ya want poke hold is the
Sonitrol system.... go ahead. Maybe you feel it take attention away from the
multiple inadequacies and real limitations of your system. You know the
Motorola "Brick Phone" was by far one of the best phone for it time and
quite frankly if you still own one, pound for pound it a great phone... but
that technology as good as it was is just "outdated" and although the phone
may work (actually is wont because it is not digital) why would you want to
use it when more modern phones (that have their limitation as well) offer
some much more reliability.

So try not to be so closede minded ... especially since Sonitrol probabally
did not allow you to sell ther product line.

 Again we are the better solution... Sonitrol Security... call for a
presentation and evaluate for yourself.

Mention Pyro and I'll get back to you..

Take Care


"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:45a5c381$0$5184$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >There is a better solution... Sonitrol Security... call for a
> >presentation and evaluate for yourself
>
> Sonitrol is nothing more than a type of listen in technology. That kind of
> technology is great for alarm verification and little else. Listening to
> Sonitrol Security success stories is like listening to someone talk about
> all the good things that Hitler did. Why don't you include how many missed
> break-ins and law suits they have? Do you or does anyone really want some
> central station operator making a decision about your life and property
> only by what he or she hears? I was at a high profile soft drink
> manufacturer today listening to how proud the customer was of us because
> she saw in the local news where our system caught the bad guy at a nearby
> arena major events venue. Lots of folks posting here have similar success
> stories to tell. In our case it wouldn't have happened that way using
> Sonitrol, and I bet the others here would say the same thing. I can tell
> you for certain after using MGI and other now defunct manufacturers of
> similar product that it isn't what you seem to think it is. If it was
> every insurance company out there would be getting their customers to use
> it and making a ton of money from reduced loses.
>
> You're almost right though in your statement. Let me help you.
>>There is a better solution... Sonitrol Pornography... call for a special
>>presentation and ejaculate yourself.
>
> "pyro" <pound.sand@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:NTfph.4108$Ul4.3298@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Hey I can expect these kinds of responses. You can't do what Sonitol does
>> because your technology is limited and antiquated. I have seen multiple
>> complaints that's say ADT installed their system and it did not work
>> properly, so they brought in Bay to Monitor and they did not work out, so
>> then they brought in Post, same problems. It does not take a rocket
>> scientist to figure out that it is  not the  "monitoring company" that is
>> at fault, it is the system / technology.
>>
>> I got a buddy that works for ADT, I know exactly what they say about the
>> product. You have to get a competitive edge. A traditional systems ONLY
>> advantage is that everyone  (or just about everyone) sell the same crap.
>> Therefore the customer has know where to go and eventually excepts what
>> they got... OR they switch companies, feel better for a while... and the
>> cycle starts again.
>>
>> Hey all system have failure rates. Nobody is perfect. You say you see
>> Sonitrol Systems in abandon buildings, and you also see ADT, Honeywell,
>> Bay, Post and a hundred other small and pop shops.
>>
>> Oh, by the way... who is Robert Bass and why does he or anybody else
>> think he is so smart? He sounds like the typical old consultant type
>> trying to hang on the only technology he possess and makes every excuse
>> in the book for why it dose not work except for the relevant excuse. The
>> technology never worked well...ever but is was the only available option.
>>
>> There is a better solution... Sonitrol Security... call for a
>> presentation and evaluate for yourself
>>
>>
>> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1168453822.760302.160820@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> pyro wrote:
>>>> Want to really fix the on going issue??
>>>>
>>>> Drop ADT or any system that is motion detector based. The problem is
>>>> the
>>>> technology not the company. Go wih Sonitrol Security. No motion
>>>> detectors
>>>> and their system has a variety of other advantages all based on thier
>>>> technology.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You WERE replying on the subject regarding the lowest member of the
>>> evolutionary scale .... weren't you?
>>>
>>
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