Re: DSC Power832

["Roland Moore" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>No contract means less paperwork and less time.

No contract means you have nothing in place to limit your liability.

"CH®IS" <sh@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Ir47j.29325$Ji6.15016@xxxxxxxxxxx
> "alarman" wrote...
> >
> > Well, lets see...we drive to your house, let's say 1/2 hour.
>
> If it's in town here it'll be half that at most (small city).  Out of
town,
> we'll either charge for travel or we'll add it to a day when we're in that
> area.  If you're in a larger city (as you most likely are), half an hour
is
> a good start.
>
> > Your programming time of three minutes is unrealistic, since the system
> > would need to be fully checked to see how the zones need to be
configured
> > so that we know HOW to program the system, minimum 1/2 hour.
>
> In this case, the zone list is written on the keypad, and nothing appears
to
> be scratched out or added.  Check the panel to ensure there are still only
7
> zones and it's not a rat's nest of wire to be a little more confident.
>
> > Now we do the programming, test the system, demonstrate it, another 1/2
> > hour minimum.
>
> I'll give you 5 minutes to have a look at the system, 3 minutes to
program,
> another 5 minutes for testing, training (with a competent user) should be
> less than 5 minutes.  So I'm up to 18 minutes for all that.  Did you have
> lunch with them during the training?
>
> > This is if all goes well of course, which it never does.
>
> I'll give you that one.  Always depends on the original installation.
>
> > Just after you finish the demo to the Mrs., Mr. homeowner comes home and
> > you'll need to do it again.
>
> So another 5 minutes?  I find that the one who was there will often
explain
> it all to the one who wasn't, so I just listen in to make sure they don't
> screw it up.
>
> > And when was the last time you went to reactivate an existing system and
> > everything worked perfectly?
>
> I've done at least 3 in the past couple of weeks that were perfect.  One
> almost perfectly, except it needed a new surface contact.  Then again, we
> don't have a door knocker in the area to install crap either, I assume
most
> people on here do.
>
> > It doesn't happen that way, repairs and/or adjustments will almost
> > certainly need to be made, so another 1/2 hour, minimum. Now I have a
BARE
> > MINIMUM of 2 hours invested in this project, have assumed liability for
> > the entire system, (no contract, remember), and all for $50. Out of
this,
> > I pay for gasoline, service truck, vehicle, liability, and E/O
insurance,
> > telephone, licensing, taxes, tools, etc.
> >
>
> You have a bare minimum of 2 hours.  I have a bare minimum of 38 minutes,
> plus a couple more here and there for the chatty types you'll inevitably
run
> into when you're in a hurry.  I'm still missing your point on the
liability
> issues (just an installer, I don't run the company).  No contract means
less
> paperwork and less time.  I'll pay a little in gas, you'll be stuck in
> traffic for your extra 82 minutes paying more for gas.  As for the rest of
> it, it's all part of the business.  If you weren't paying it, you wouldn't
> be getting paid.
>
> - Chris
>
>