Re: PR: Bosch CCTV Now Online at Bass Burglar Alarms

[Milhouse Van Houten <none@xxxxxxxxx>]

I brive a dus wrote:

>On Apr 13, 9:48 pm, Milhouse Van Houten <n...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Mark Leuck wrote:
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>> >"Milhouse Van Houten" <n...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >> Mark Leuck wrote:
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>> >> >"Milhouse Van Houten" <n...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >> >> Mark Leuck wrote:
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>> >> >> >"Milhouse Van Houten" <n...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:qtvt135eo8vibre4eoh20ut2tpgtdvokb5@xxxxxxxxxx
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>> >> >> >> Yeah... IF Bass decides to take the call.  When he is not available,
>> >> >> >> which seems to be quite often, the end-user will have no choice but
>> >to
>> >> >> >> turn to the manufacturer or sadly, this NG.
>>
>> >> >> >So how often does he not take the call? You don't know do you?
>>
>> >> >> Judging by the responses in this NG about poor service, and his
>> >> >> abysmal BBB report I would venture to guess quite often.
>>
>> >> >The poor service responses here could be total bullshit and the BBB stuff
>> >> >could be anything, again you don't know and neither do I
>>
>> >> Yeah right - and pigs are leaping out of my ass too.
>>
>> >> I'm sure his BBB record stated here:
>> >>http://www.bbbwestflorida.org/commonreport.html?bid=41001663
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>> >> is cool compared to your employer's record which is abhorrent:
>> >>http://www.dallas.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=27001664
>>
>> >Slight difference, we have about 600,000 customers compared to RLB's few
>> >hundred
>>
>> Unsatisfactory is unsatisfactory.
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>> http://www.bbbsoutheastflorida.org/nis/newsearch2.asp?ID=1&strBCode=0...
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>> ADT's record is not classified.. WTF? good?
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>> http://www.wichita.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=5739
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>> Protection One..
>> Unclassified. good?
>>
>> Company Management:
>> Additional company management personnel include:
>>  Mr. David Olson
>> ^^^^^^^^^^
>> Maybe Bass will look into this.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------http://www.dallas.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=7029
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>> Brinks... best record so far.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------http://www.thebbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=11025475
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>> Sonitrol.  The BEST record.- Hide quoted text -
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>The majority of BBB complaints on Monkey originate from systems sold
>by a few REALLY BAD dealers they had.
>Examples:
>Pinnacle/Apex/Safehome/Alarmex/ whatever the hell else they call
>themsleves have wreaked havoc throughout the nation. They are more
>affectionately known as the Mormon doorknockers
>
>Sentry 2000/ Patriot Security did a number on Monkey in the Northeast
>as did Pro Line/PAB
>
>BRINKS has a great BBB track record for resolving complaints but that
>doesn't mean they don't have a shitload of pissed off customers.
>Where BRINKS really shows it's ugly self is how it charged back it's
>dealers in the gulf states after Katrina and used those chargeback
>numbers to disqualify dealers from their RMR bonus. Right now there is
>a large group of dealers in the South discussing a class action
>lawsuit against BRINKS.
>BRINKS also has branch offices so if a dealer jumps ship the branch
>can always pick up the service slack.
>Monkey has no branch locations so they rely solely on subs to service
>their clients.
>
>As someone who was a dealer for both I would have to say Monkey did
>(past tense) a better job when it came to resolving issues with pissed
>off clients.
>
>The BBB is a worthless point of reference for a consumer. Companies
>like DirectBuy have satisfactory records with the BBB yet they are a
>borderline scam.
>The BBB concerns itself with one thing only and that is membership
>revenue. A funny note concerning the BBB is they had a few sales reps
>take them before the labor board over unpaid commissions.
>
>You just started a company so pay them their vig so you can put the
>sticker on your door but don't look for them to help you in any way.
>Keep in mind that ANYONE can file a complaint against your company
>with the BBB whether they are a customer of yours or not. You really
>have no way to discredit their claim so don't use the BBB as a selling
>point. There could come a day when you bid a job and the customer
>turns into an asshole so you curse him out. Guess what? He can claim
>he is a client of yours and you no showed or you caused damage or
>whatever he wants to say. He can say he placed an online order and it
>was never fulfilled.
>Walk softly when the BBB is concerned.
>
>You should also join the local Chamber of Commerce but stay clear of
>any alarm organizations. They are a waste of time and money. Use Ken
>Kirschenbaum for your contracts. He charges $600.00 to write them but
>it's money well spent.
>Make certain that your business is incorporated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Register for a Sans # at donotcall.gov
>For marketing take a look at Salesgenie.com, Citysearch pay per call,
>Ingenio, and ServiceMagic.
>You might also consider doing sub work for the Monkey. I believe they
>pay $50.00 an hour in Texas. Maybe Mark will make nice nice with you
>and give you the contact info.
>
>Take the advice or don't take the advice. It doesn't affect me either
>way. I'm just making good on a promise.
>That goes for anyone reading this too and not just Jeffy.

Wow!  Thank You, Tom.