Re: New ADT Homeland Security Program

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Like Clint Eastwood said in the movie Unforgiven "Deserve ain't got nothin'
to do with it". I don't know the "man from Ottawa" from the man in the moon.
I wasn't trying to be offensive or not to be offensive. There was no reason
to be either one. There are legitimate questions in the post. Please pay
less attention to the sizzle and more to the steak. Again it wasn't meant to
be offensive. If someone wants to describe something one way or another
isn't it fair to examine his or her credentials? I don't want to go Bass
fishing here, but political bromides like Bush is a ...FILL IN THE BLANK
where the blank says less than normal intelligence I really want to know.
Although I hear that often sort of thing, as a practical matter there are
few people in real life that I (or you I supect) ever meet that on on par
with him. You might disagree with that statement, but I have a good deal of
first hand knowledge to prove otherwise and would. Being smart doesn't make
you a good president necessarily. Being a bad president doesn't cause your
IQ to mysteriously fall. You might think Bush is an aweful president. If so
then say that straight out. Maybe say why you think that or maybe say
nothing at all. Most folks are their own experts at how they feel about
something or someone. Richard Nixon was very bright, maybe the smartest of
the his century. A good president? Who could see past the flaws to know,
certainly he couldn't himself. Over all he would fall on the very bad
president scale in most people's eyes. Didn't mean he wasn't extremely
bright either before, during, or after his term in office. William Clinton?
Probably not as smart as Nixon. A good president? Too soon to tell. If you
or he were offended try to read the post again and just honestly answer the
questions.  He felt free to share his views, why be shy now? Please share
more. I always want to be ready to try and learn more whenever I can. I
thought we agreed on one thing for certain, he seems glad that he lives in
Canada and so am I. See? Both very happy and that is my "normal" state of
mind.

"Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Holy Shit....I am damn sure a man in Ottawa wont like this....
> And he sure didn't deserve that.....
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> Roland I hope you were not in your "normal" state of mind when you wrote
> that...
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> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> If you couldn't figure out it was a joke in less than 1 second then I am
>> glad you live where you live and not here. Let me see "shallow and
>> insanely stupid"? Yes, your post certainly qualifies for that
>> distinction! Do you know your own IQ score by the way? Good enough to get
>> into any ivy league school I suspect. Do share it with us so we have
>> something to gauge the merit of your other observations by. Do you read
>> 10 to 15 books a month? What topics do you prefer? Economics? A heavy
>> philosophical treatise? What tomes have pleased you most recently? Do
>> tell all! Please let us know where you received your MBA (or equivalent
>> in your country and where it was from). What was your GPA and position in
>> your class? I am sure you are proud of that and would be eager to share
>> it with us. And I missed where you learned how to pilot a jet. Not a
>> pilot? Too bad! I suspect perhaps you have a future as a pilot, probably
>> the hot air type of some sort. Of course the above is a brief contrast of
>> you and of the things George W. Bush does or has done. If he is at or
>> near the bottom of the intellectual food chain in your view, where are
>> you? In American Baseball, something George W. Bush knows something about
>> too, you would be playing the position they call "left out" I believe.
>> However if you do come visit us here in the USA someday I hope you can
>> drive here from where you are. We have an extra passanger that posts here
>> that would be right at home with you on your little yellow bus on your
>> way back. You may need a come along (perhaps called a lever hoist where
>> you are from) and a "A" frame to help him and you remove the respective
>> feet from your mouths. Be forewarned that some folks that post here want
>> to donate their foot for his other end and a foot for yours too perhaps
>> if you have any other similar observations to make in the future.
>> If you think these comments a bit harsh, you should be thankful that this
>> might be WW III coming and not WW I again. Here is a breif U.S. History
>> lesson for foreigners to see where a little political criticism in the
>> USA can get you if said at the wrong time. Let's see what happened to
>> some folks (some of whom I suspect are your heroes) after the Espionage
>> Act was passed by Congress in 1917.
>> Eugene Victor Debs. (by the way a good Democrat in the Indiana
>> Legislature and socialist - perhaps that is a redundant statement)
>> sentenced to 10 years for one speech no less, unfortunately he served
>> only 3.
>> William Dudley Haywood. Big socialist publisher, but he got that eye for
>> an eye thing confused. He got 20 years but fled to Russia. Died there
>> too. What a guy! Go and be near Joe Stalin. That says it all.
>> Asa Philip Randolph. A man who apparently thought being black should
>> exclude one from national service and said so. Clink.
>> Victor Berger. He probably got the worst sentence of them all. Bypassed
>> jail and got elected to Congress while out on appeal. And worst of all
>> got a pardon from a Republican President. (Read on it really starts to go
>> down hill from here)
>> John Reed. Wrote a lot (The Masses) and sounds just like you do in your
>> post. Here is a taste (below) to see if that doesn't fit your world view.
>> "No recent words have seemed to me so ludicrously condescending as the
>> Kaiser's speech to his people when he said that in this supreme crisis he
>> freely forgave all those who had ever opposed him. I am ashamed that in
>> this day in a civilized country any one can speak such archaic nonsense
>> as that speech contained.
>> More nauseating than the crack-brained bombast of the Kaiser is the
>> editorial chorus in America which pretends to believe - would have us
>> believe - that the White and Spotless Knight of Modern Democracy is
>> marching against the Unspeakably Vile Monster of Medieval Militarism.
>> What has democracy to do in alliance with Nicholas, the Tsar? It is
>> Liberalism which is marching from the Petersburg of Father Gapon, from
>> the Odessa of Progroms? Are our editors naive enough to believe this?
>> We, who are Socialists, must hope - we may even expect - that out of this
>> horror of bloodshed and dire destruction will come far-reaching social
>> changes - and a long step forward towards our goal of peace among men.
>> But we must not be duped by this editorial buncombe about Liberalism
>> going forth to Holy War against Tyranny. This is not our war."
>> John Reed died young of Typus. Like most liberals and socialist he wrote
>> a lot but learned nothing, especially about Ectoparasites. What should I
>> say about rats and fleas, no too easy. Let's say stupidity is its own
>> reward and he certainly got his.
>> Max Eastman. He just published critical articles in The Masses. Hung
>> jurry after two trials. I bet that left him broke. It must have broken
>> something in him too because he went from left to right. He went to work
>> for the Reader's Digest and then supported Joe McCarthy! I can't tell
>> which is worse.
>> Emma Goldman. The world owed her and everyone else a living. She decided
>> that the unemployed should steal the food they needed. Talk about family
>> values she was promoting free love and birth control way before the '60s.
>> Here She simply opposed conscription, and only got two years for that. In
>> the end of her life special permission had to be obtained to bring her
>> carcass to back to the USA to be buried.
>> Emma Goldman lamented in her autobiography that there were about 100
>> folks that were cought up with her in the trial and destroyed. Many for
>> just handing out tracts. Up to 10,000 were eventually hauled off to jail
>> or deported by J. Edgar or the rest of the FBI boys that followed his
>> pink panties. Funny but major portions of the Espionage Act remain part
>> of United States law (18 USC 793, 794). The best part is that a
>> Democratic President, Woodrow Wilson, was the big push behind it all and
>> was proud of it!
>> (Picture Bob Newhart in a one way conversation for a moment here) Wait a
>> minute. Wait! Yes! I think someone just spilled their Kool-Aid again. No
>> he's choking. I can't tell is it grape flavor or is he turning blue? Man
>> he spit it all over everything! This is ugly! He's down on the floor
>> snapping at flies. He looks like a cold tuna bouncing around on a hot
>> deck. Wait. wait.... he is saying something Help maybe? no, no, He is
>> saying ..It? yes, "it"... get his hand away from his throat It. It what?
>> It.. It  Yes "It" we understand. It can't.. Yes we understand! "It can't"
>> He's gurgling something, I think it's be true. Yes "be true"  Oh, "It
>> can't be true". "Oh yes, positively true!" "No, no sorry no Fox news to
>> blame." "No, I promise there was no Fox news." "Yes." "Yes the BBC
>> reported about it eventually when it came into being."  "No, no Fox
>> news!" "Yes I am sure Rupert Murdock wasn't born yet." "Yes, I am sure
>> Wilson was a Democrat." "Yes big 'D' Democrat as in not Republican" "Yes
>> Democrat, Yes all Wilson's idea start to finish" "Yes the Supreme Court
>> Upheld it." "Yes it upheld it, Yes, yes in 1919" "No. no take the gun out
>> of your mouth and calm down." "Yes, it was all in Emma's autobiography."
>> "Stop screaming" 'TAKE ME NOW'!" "Here, breathe into the paper bag,
>> you'll be fine." "Okay we will talk about Thorstein Veblen if that will
>> make you feel better."(Okay turn off Bob Newhart)
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>> To see feeble posts like yours parroting off the cuff political remarks
>> truly reflects a barbaric level of stupidity on your part. No I don't
>> hope you will get it eventually get it because you've identified with a
>> group of folks that make it a practice not to get anything that might in
>> some way help the other side. It really doesn't matter to me whether you
>> bury your snout in the trough on the left or the one on the right. Unless
>> you take the time and trouble to find the truth for yourself it is all
>> the same swill. It all looks the same, tastes the same and stinks the
>> same, and you and some others here are apparently happy eating all they
>> can get. Try to break you lazzy ass away from the trough long enough to
>> come up for some fresh air. My point is simple. This whole situation
>> fighting terror might be on a real downturn before it sees an upside.
>> Drive by comments like yours when flag draped coffins are coming home are
>> not appreciated by everyone. If the level of toleration gets too thin,
>> and the past says anything about the future, who knows what measures,
>> legal or otherwise, comments like yours may provoke. Again, attitudes
>> like yours might be the cool thing to have in your neck of the woods,
>> (you and others that post similar drivel have already proven beyond any
>> doubt not to be bright enough to come up with them or much of anything
>> else on your own), but they aren't universally appreciated here in this
>> country. I feel certain all sides of this issue will be surprised, for
>> all of us that may still be around in 30 or so years, to see how the
>> History Channel tells us the current events really unfolded behind the
>> scenes. Until then, unless you have loved ones in harms way or soon could
>> have, a word to the wise says to be more reflective and circumspect in
>> your future posts. I doubt this post will mean much too you. You'll
>> probably dive right back into the swill so deeply the last thing anyone
>> one will see or hear from you is your curly brushy tail going under and a
>> big "Oink" bubble coming up. What a legacy!
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>> "tourman" <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>I don't normally comment about other country's politics, but this has
>>> got to be one of the Bush administration's most shallow and insanely
>>> stupid ideas. At first I thought it was all a joke, but then I saw it
>>> might actually be a fact....or is is ?....surely not...
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>>> What will this guy think of next.....
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>>> RHC
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>>> G. Morgan wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:44:20 -0400, J.
>>>> <jsloud2001<removeme>@netscape.net> wrote:
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>>>> >Thought you guys might like to know about this...
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>>>> >http://www.thebluebrick.net/ADT.html
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>>>> LOL... That would not surprise me...
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>>>> --
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>>>> -Graham
>>>> (remove the double e's to email)
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