Re: another newbie, what to do with this Brinks alarm system?

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "J. @netscape.net>" <jsloud2001<removeme> wrote in message
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> > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:22:27 -0500, "Bob Worthy"
> > > <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > It's the same equipment as the rest of the industry.
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> > Yes it is, however, the rest of the industry did not follow ADT's lead
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> > this equipment as you suggested earlier.
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> I don't know what you mean by this

It goes further back than the panels listed below. I am sure ADT had
relationships with several manufacturers to customize product, private
label, etc. for many years. I just remember, here in south Florida when they
went to, for their resi installs, a conventional panel simply private
labeled. Everyone was already using this or similar equipment prior to ADT
using it. J made it sound like it wasn't until ADT started using these
panels that the rest of the industry followed suit. Then when the dealership
program started, again at least here in south Florida, ADT was accepting
almost all major brands of panels the dealers wanted to install. I remember
the memo going out to the dealers listing six or seven different panels they
would accept, which were all readily available over the counter and had been
being used by the majority of the industry. There was no standardization at
all. I do understand that, some of what ADT had made for them at one point,
is now available to open distribution, but is that an agreement between ADT
and the manufacturer that if certain quantities are not met, the product
goes on the open market? I don't know.

> our primary panel

Didn't know you worked for ADT. I probably haven't been around the NG long
enough to have picked up on that.

> is the Vista-15P/20P
> which was used by ADT long before any regular dealer could get their hands
> on it. Also the 8132 Symphony Internet keypad. a large number of
peripherals
> including some GE stuff all created for ADT but now for everyone

Do you think ADT, because of their mere size, may be a beta test site for
product from these manufacturers? I am sure it would be smart, once all the
approvals have been received, to use an ADT, give them a great price, to get
it out in the market prior to putting it on the shelves. And...Iam sure, at
times, ADT has gone back to these manufactures with specific requirements
they want in a panel for instance. But I don't think, because there are so
many choices out there, that companies are deciding on equipment just
because it is what ADT is using. If I misunderstood J's post, I apologize,
but it is hard to interpet things through his defense of ADT sometimes. He
is definately a homer. I would bet his performance reviews are right up
there.
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> The only equipment that I can think of where the rest of the industry
didn't
> follow is with that Napco Freedom panel.

Now their advertisement is on the inside cover of all the trade rags this
month.

> > >It's better equipment than most dealers can get >there hands on, ie.
> EST3,
> > > DMP, Bosch, etc.
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> > What? Are you saying that dealers can't obtain this equipment? Come on!
> Any
> > dealer can get any equipment they choose. I have been approached by many
> of
> > these type companys to become a dealer for them, as have most other
> licensed
> > companys.
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> Actually it is much harder to get the above equipment compared to the
> standard stuff, especially DMP. Bosch isn't that much easier

Yah..you do have to jump through some hoops to get to be a dealer. I realize
you can't readily get these products through normal distribution, but if you
choose to be a dealer and want to jump through the hoops, a legitimate
company can become a dealer for any of these companies. Protected
territories may be the only hurdle that could cause a problem, however, I
haven't seen where they are that concerned about protecting territorys.
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