Re: James Bond Credit Card Lock Picks

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

IMO, you are right on all counts vis a vis the door frames!   Nor does it
make a whole lot of sense to spend a lot of money to electronically warn of
an intrusion after they are basically already in, if you haven't spent
usually far less up front in advance to make it as difficult as possible to
gain entry to start with !! Security is a "layered" approach, and ALL things
should be in balance depending upon the environment and the particular risk
scenario present...

It always astounds me after I go to the scene of a residential robbery, how
easily in most cases it could have been prevented to start with by a few
simple physical security improvements taken in advance. Then after the fact
of course, the customer is always in a mad rush to install an alarm system
(and this usually means he's more vulnerable to the first "shark" that shows
up at the house, rather than spend the research time necessary to make a
GOOD buying decision !!)

What's that old saying about putting the cart before the horse..!!

RHC

"Robert L Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:VIZuf.7259$If.3101@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> RHC: I don't know of anyone who has ever
>> picked a Medeco lock successfully...
>
> Not only are they virtually impossible to pick.  They're also quite
> difficult to drill out.  One model I saw at an ISC show had a free
> rotating disc that would simply spin if a drill was used to try to
> compromise the tumblers.  They even supply hardened steel ball bearings to
> jam inside the heads of the allen screws to keep someone from
> disassembling the double cylinder ones from within.  I wondered how you're
> supposed to service it if you use those. :^)
>
>> Back when I was locksmithing full time, I
>> used to hear stories about those who said
>> they could do it, but I never met anyone
>> who actually was successful. Maybe someone
>> has actually done it since then, but I seriously doubt it. Even if it was
>> possible, it would
>> take far too long to gain access that way
>> compared to other, easier points of entry.
>
> Far easier and faster to destroy the door frame.
>
>> Medeco locks are also of much stonger
>> construction than conventional non high
>> security locks, with ball bearings built in to
>> drill spots to stop a thief intent on destroying
>> the lock to get it open...
>
> The bearings are to prevent disassembly.  The hardened discs do the rest.
> Nice piece of engineering.
>
>> Well worth the money for commercial applications,
>> but massive overkill for residential IMO. Expensive to rekey as well !!
>> But again, ANY lock is only as
>> good as the strike...usually the weakest point in the
>> door locking system !!
>
> From what I've seen on countless residential calls, the door frame is what
> goes first.  One good, swift kick will take down most household entry
> doors. There's only about an inch of pine holding the strike plate in
> place on many of them.  As you have often said in the newsgroup,
> electronic security isn't the whole story.  You have to consider
> strengthening the doors and, in some neighborhoods, the windows too.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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