Re: Ademco Vista Programming

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I am not avoiding it. It seems that most everyone here has been talking to
Bass or about Bass for along time and to date nothing has seemed to
influence him one way or another. Me adding my 2 cents is unlikely to make
any difference. I took note of Jim's comments. Agreeing with Jim on one
point doesn't take me down the road to wishing any harm on Bass. Having just
buried my friend from a slow terrible unfair death last week I see no reason
to support or condemn any side here. I have no ability to control others in
any way and no desire to. It is enough for me to tend to the details of my
own life. If Bass wants to know what I think of his methods I suspect he
will ask me. If Jim wants to know I can say it is something I would not
choose to do.

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I think you either missed the point of what Jim said or are avoiding it
> entirely
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> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> This end user seemed to know a lot about the names of the equipment that
>> most users would not. Knowing the name of the downloading software for
>> one
>> and the name of the modem for another makes me think this end user more
>> savvy than most. I think he will need all he has going for him right away
>> because the first step of getting the Compass software going and talking
> to
>> a Vista 128FB with a 4100SN is not a strainght forward hook up. I have
>> had
> a
>> lot of trouble especially when you have to use a serial to USB adapter.
>> If
>> someone had a Vista 20P and still wanted to "upgrade" to another Vista
>> product I think they should already know what they're in for. Programing
>> relays in the Vista 128FB like the 4204 or 4101SN can be a time consuming
>> pain. Even though this guy isn't doing fancy elevator realys or custom
> relay
>> function, automation events can be cruel in the ways they refuse to work
>> sometimes. There are no real right or wrong ways to program some of these
>> events and relays, so it adds to the confusion when there are so many
>> ways
>> to get to the same end result.  I hope someone is just as forthcoming
>> with
>> the proper local if not national tech support phone numbers for this guy
> to
>> use, once he gets stuck, as they were with the other web information. I
> hope
>> he can convince someone at the other end to talk to him. I guess that is
>> where the real difference in DIY and the real thank you comes in. I know
> the
>> local trainer and he gets stuck on some of these relay configurations and
>> has to call for support himself. If working with the product daily and
>> teaching it for a living doesn't get you the full understanding I'd say
> that
>> proves it isn't that simple sometimes.
>> I'd suggest he consider using a 4297 so if there is a short on the
>> polling
>> loop the whole thing doesn't crash and fall off line. It is always fun to
>> start to see dozens of zones showing faults because a small wiring
>> problem
>> on an upstream polling loop wire.
>>
>> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1165203971.667932.38520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Robert L Bass wrote:
>> >> > I'm thinking of upgrading my Vista-20P
>> >> > to a 128BP for two reasons:
>> >> > 1. advantages of a polling loop system
>> >> > 2. Be able to name my outputs for x-10
>> >> > devices.
>> >> >
>> >> > My question is around Compass - is it
>> >> > worth using?
>> >>
>> >> Yes.  Here's a link.
>> >> http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/resources/mywebtech/index.html
>> >>
>> >> User: honeyell
>> >> Pass: support92
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Do I need a CIA Modem or can I use a
>> >> > null-modem cable and directly connect
>> >> > with a laptop?
>> >>
>> >> You can use either the CIA modem or the 4100SM serial interface
>> >> module.
>> >> https://library.ademconet.com/MWT/fs1/4/4378.pdf
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Robert L Bass
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Roland,
>> >
>> > Here's a good example of what kind of asshole Bass is.
>> >
>>
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