Re: Ademco Vista Programming

["Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think you either missed the point of what Jim said or are avoiding it
entirely

"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> This end user seemed to know a lot about the names of the equipment that
> most users would not. Knowing the name of the downloading software for one
> and the name of the modem for another makes me think this end user more
> savvy than most. I think he will need all he has going for him right away
> because the first step of getting the Compass software going and talking
to
> a Vista 128FB with a 4100SN is not a strainght forward hook up. I have had
a
> lot of trouble especially when you have to use a serial to USB adapter. If
> someone had a Vista 20P and still wanted to "upgrade" to another Vista
> product I think they should already know what they're in for. Programing
> relays in the Vista 128FB like the 4204 or 4101SN can be a time consuming
> pain. Even though this guy isn't doing fancy elevator realys or custom
relay
> function, automation events can be cruel in the ways they refuse to work
> sometimes. There are no real right or wrong ways to program some of these
> events and relays, so it adds to the confusion when there are so many ways
> to get to the same end result.  I hope someone is just as forthcoming with
> the proper local if not national tech support phone numbers for this guy
to
> use, once he gets stuck, as they were with the other web information. I
hope
> he can convince someone at the other end to talk to him. I guess that is
> where the real difference in DIY and the real thank you comes in. I know
the
> local trainer and he gets stuck on some of these relay configurations and
> has to call for support himself. If working with the product daily and
> teaching it for a living doesn't get you the full understanding I'd say
that
> proves it isn't that simple sometimes.
> I'd suggest he consider using a 4297 so if there is a short on the polling
> loop the whole thing doesn't crash and fall off line. It is always fun to
> start to see dozens of zones showing faults because a small wiring problem
> on an upstream polling loop wire.
>
> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> > Robert L Bass wrote:
> >> > I'm thinking of upgrading my Vista-20P
> >> > to a 128BP for two reasons:
> >> > 1. advantages of a polling loop system
> >> > 2. Be able to name my outputs for x-10
> >> > devices.
> >> >
> >> > My question is around Compass - is it
> >> > worth using?
> >>
> >> Yes.  Here's a link.
> >> http://www.security.honeywell.com/hsce/resources/mywebtech/index.html
> >>
> >> User: honeyell
> >> Pass: support92
> >>
> >>
> >> > Do I need a CIA Modem or can I use a
> >> > null-modem cable and directly connect
> >> > with a laptop?
> >>
> >> You can use either the CIA modem or the 4100SM serial interface module.
> >> https://library.ademconet.com/MWT/fs1/4/4378.pdf
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Robert L Bass
> >>
> >
> >
> > Hey Roland,
> >
> > Here's a good example of what kind of asshole Bass is.
> >
>
>