Re: Remote car start via phone?

[szekeres@xxxxxxxx (GregS)]

In article <5ooCg.356228$iF6.103227@pd7tw2no>, Matt Ion <soundy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>GregS wrote:
>> In article <1w3Cg.348081$iF6.315343@pd7tw2no>, Matt Ion
> <soundy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>Frank Olson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>In Vancouver, if you idle your engine for longer than 3 minutes while
>>>>parked anywhere, you're subject to an $80.00 fine.  This has something
>>>>to do with lowering emission levels.  This, of course, never even
>>>>crossed your mind.  Having a "warm and toasty" car is far more important
>>>>after that long plane trip...
>>>
>>>Another thing to consider: almost all modern car manufacturers recommend NOT
>>>warming up your car for more than 30 seconds before driving.
>>
>>
>> I read a few posts about warming up. Nothing seems to be really informative,
> or dangerous.
>> These seem to be accepted generalizations.
>>
>> Idling for a while is good, to get the oil going.
>
>That's the "conventional wisdom" but keep in mind, most cars today are using
>much lighter multigrade oils (5W-30) than back in the day when everyone just
>used straight 30-weights.  They don't need to "warm up" to flow properly.
>
>> Car companies and media are likely to recommend anything that
>> improves immisions or fuel economy.
>
>Funny, I'd have thought the car companies would be all about wasting fuel. :P

I forget what year it was. The Feds used to have a thing going where every year the
car companies were suppose to decrease fuel consumption. They quit doing that one
year probably back in the 80's. Supposed to boost the economy. I think it boosted foreign car sales.
Well now, the average size of vehicles is way too high.

grge


>> Idling may not be the optimum conditions for a running engine.
>>
>> Warming up produces higher emmisions, and a fast warmup
>> may lower overall emmisions.
>
>Not so much true anymore... once again, with newer cars, computer-controlled
>fuel systems mitigate that.  Back in the carb days, yes, you had to warm up -
>engines didn't burn fuel well when colder, so the choke on your car closed and
>locked the idle on high to get a lot more gas through until the engine warmed
> up
>enough for proper combustion, with no real way to control it to actually match
>conditions - the choke worked the same whether it was +30 or -30.  With
>computer-controlled fuel injection, all engine conditions are monitored
>constantly, including sampling the exhaust to determine how well the fuel was
>burning, and fuel mixture is constantly adjusted accordingly, allowing it to be
>
>optimized even under poor combustion conditions.
>
>The need to allow the engine to "warm up" for proper operation simply doesn't
>exist on newer cars.