Re: Thinking of installing myself...

["Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> Robert L Bass wrote:
> > On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:01:23 -0500, Mike Sokoly <secure15@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> >
> > Note that most independent alarm installing companies do not operate
their own
> > central stations.  The work is farmed out to large, regional central
stations
> > (aka "third party monitoring" companies).  The CS charges the dealer
anywhere
> > from $2 to $7 a month for their services.

To bad someone doesn't post what you buy your equipment for and than the
markup. Or that you actually sell things you received for free. I understand
that your margins are getting less and less however. hey hey hey!!!!

  The CS usually provides the dealer
> > with professionally drawn contracts which protect both dealer and CS
from
> > liability if they screw up.  Some will accept the dealer's own contract
if it
> > has the proper verbiage.  The dealers then resell the service which
costs them
> > $2-7 a month for anywhere between $20 and $40 a month to the public.

What a pretty picture you paint. If it was so profitable, why did you get
out? Is the unsuspecting DIYer market an easier pinch, simply **more**
profitable or that is it a convicted felon can only work behind the scenes.
> >
> > This makes a very nice source of recurring monthly revenue for the
dealer.
> > After a few years a dealer may have several thousand accounts, each
profiting
> > him $13 to $38 a month.  This makes a very strong incentive for the
dealer to
> > discourage people from DIY and for insisting that all their
installations
> > include a multi-year monitoring contract.
> >
> > The above isn't a slam against dealers.  It's just a factual explanation
of the
> > monitoring profit center and why it motivates those who sell installed
systems.
> > The problem for the consumer is that the dealer may or may not be very
talented.
> > His crew might be well-trained or they might be hacks picked up at the
> > unemployment line.  The problem is that the customer has no way to know
whether
> > the dealer in his living room is a good guy or a dolt.  Most are decent,
honest
> > people and most try their best to provide good service.  Others
unfortunately
> > are quite the opposite.
> >
>
>
> On the other hand anyone buying equipment on line from someone like you
> wouldn't have a clue that you're a convicted felon for pulling a gun on
> someont and responsible for someones death either.And because of that
> you couldn't get an installation license anyway. Have the authoities is
> Florida finished investigating you ...... again, for the SECOND time,
> for skirting the alarm trade laws in your state? Are you still
> operating your business from South America ..... so you can avoid them?
>   Well, you can't stay there forever. They'll get ya sooner or later.
>
> Isn't it YOU that"'s got a years and years long record in Usenet of
> going real life with people by calling their places of emploment and
> telling lies about people simply to get them in trouble because you
> don't like them. And it's you also that goes to competitors websites
> and makes derogatory comments, under a false name, to make your
> competitor look bad too ...... aren't you the one who does things like
> that.    Why SURE you are.
>
> On the surface,  when someone comes to this group for information, no
> one would actually know that you lie to end users by implying that your
> in the installation business and that you haven't got a clue about what
> the new  products do, except what you read ..... or steal from the
> people in this group or from publications from manufacturers. Why the
> end useres wouldn't even consider that you've got numerous unsetteled
> Better business claims against you either  ..... unless someon pointed
> it out now would they?
>
> So lets see ...... why don't you tell us again how the end user should
> beware of installation companys and consider doing the job himself?
> Yes, yes, tell us how much safer he is buying his products on line from
> someone like you.
>
> Oh and if any of the above is incorrect or if you'd like to call me a
> liar, go right ahead. But we all know that you can't ........  because
> it's all been documented in Google for the years and years that you've
> been scamming end users in Usenet.
>
>
> You' seee Beebee? What did I tell ya was gonna happen eventually?
> You've burned all the bridges and too many people. Now it's all coming
> together naturally. Just the way it should. Just the way I thought it
> would. You're getting exactly what you deserve. No one will tolerate a
> nasty vindictive lying swindler forever.
>
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Robert L Bass
> >
>