Re: Problem with ADT Security Company

["Doug L" <vssdoug@xxxxxxx>]

RHC has found a business model that suits his needs, and thats all well and
good, but for him to suggest that everyone who runs their business
differently by using term contracts or charging a different price for their
services is somehow ripping off the consumer gets a little tiring, but the
reality is that nothing anyone says or does in this group has any effect on
my business and probably has no effect on anyone elses business either.
To answer your question, no, I don't lock out customers from their own
equipment (other than while they are being monitored), I don't hold them to
residential monitoring only contracts and I don't know personally of anyone
who does. In a business environment most of my contracts are for leased
systems and  if the dollar amount is high enough and there is a realistic
chance of recovering money owed to me I will persue it, although so far I
have judgements but no money.

Doug L


"Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> Jim said:
>>
>> >Is there anyone here who has maliciously persued a client who was in
>> >good
>> >standing and
>> >forced them to complete a contract, simply because you could?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean.  If the client is in good standing, then he's
>> making payments as agreed, and there's no need to force him to complete
>> the
>> contract.  If you mean, suppose the client wants to cancel before the end
>> of his contract because he's moving to a building that already has an
>> alarm
>> in it, or because someone else will give him a lower price, then yes, I
>> know companies that sue people as a matter of course.  Personally, I
>> don't,
>> unless I stand to lose a lot of money, but one company I know  files
>> quite
>> a few small claims court cases on people who don't fulfill their
>> contracts,
>> including the automatic renewal periods.
>>
>> - badenov
>
> I'm asking if anyone "here" does what Robbie claims is so rampant in
> this business? If someone owes  money, sure, depending on how much, I
> might go through the legality of persuing someone. But, in all these
> years, I've never deemed it important enough to do. My guess is that
> this small gathering of people in this newsgroup is of the same mind
> and that there's not ONE person here who does what he IMPLIES that
> EVERYONE does. Are there some in the industry who do it? Sure, there
> are nasty people in every business. Is it the norm, as Bobby boy
> continuously paints his picture of the industry? Nah. Just like SFB,
> Robbie likes to promote his own agenda and justify his inane business
> practices by telling every end user, who comes here, that any contract
> over one month is of no value. It's of no value to him, and that's
> fine. But to constantly advise end users that term contracts are a
> ripoff, is summarily and purposely taking business away from some other
> company, who's business plan, actually INCLUDES the economys and equity
> of offering contracts for a year or more. So WHAT, that Bobby doesn't
> want to earn equity in his company. And SO WHAT, he want's to give away
> free service. And SO WHAT, that he gives his monitoring service away
> cheaper than his compitition.  That's CERTAINLY   ***HIS*** business.
> But to suggest that EVERY company who doesn't do that is ripping off
> their clients it stupid. And then, in ADDITION to enticeing end users
> into not accepting term contracts, he berates companies who UNDERSELL
> their compitition, and yet HE'S as gulity of doing that as anybody! At
> least the others are underselling by making a long term investment by
> financing the upfront costs. HE does it by sacraficing the equity of
> his company and has the NERVE to suggest that THAT's the way to run a
> company. And the NERVE to continuously tell endusers that his way is
> the right thing to support. He's doing the very same thing to end users
> as FAT ASS does. Not directly, but he berates the industry and
> installation companies who have a much better and more accepted
> business plan than he does.
>
> Someone can have a plan. Someone can run their business the way they
> choose, but to constantly stand on a soap box at every opportunity,
> suggesting that what everyone else does is wrong, then someone is gonna
> knock you off that box. Apparently no one else is willing to do it. I
> am.
>