Re: Commercial Alarm - help

["Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

We wouldn't need them. Money would go to things like schools, feeding
children, social support services, community services, recreation, etc,
etc...
Right know we're paying them to drive in circles...
We should have Waste Management respond to alarms while they're picking up
trash. ;-)

"Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jack,
>
> I'm curious, what would all of these cops be doing if they weren't
> responding to Burg alarms??? Remember, lots of tax payers own
alarms........
> Russ
>
> "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >> Jackcsg said:
> >>
> >> >Here's how simple the calculation is: The Police are notified to
respond
> > to
> >> >a burglar alarm going off at xyz residence. Police arrive, find no
sign
> > of a
> >> >break-in at the premise. This is logged as a "False Alarm". This
> > information
> >> >is collected all Year long. At the end of the year, they compare the
> > actual
> >> >calls for response, with ACTUAL crimes. Response vs. Crime.
> >> >
> >> >100% Response
> >> >99% False Alarm
> >> >1% Valid Crime
> >> >
> >> >If I'm wrong, show me a report from a responding authority having
> >> >jurisdiction that states otherwise. "SHOW ME"
> >>
> >> Yes, that's exactly my point.  The police are using an unfair
statistic,
> >> and they don't understand why it's unfair.
> >
> > Unfair statistics? Your point? Your point is dilusional.
> >
> >> Judging alarm companies by the total number of false alarms they
create:
> >> that's fair.
> >
> > So what a false alarm index? Where do you suppose this data would come
> > from?
> > Alarm companies? You just said that would be unfair.
> >
> >> Judging alarm companies by the average number of false alarms each
system
> >> causes:  that's even more fair.
> >
> > That's what you would think. Unfortunately alarm companies don't follow
> > through with the result.
> > Instead AHJ's do.
> >
> >>
> >> Judging alarm companies by the ratio of false alarms to actual
> >> burglaries:
> >> that's complete bullshit.  Alarm companies have no control over how
many
> >> burglary attempts there are.  If all the burglars decided to take the
> >> next
> >> month off, the false alarm rate would be 100%.  If the burglars decide
to
> >> work extra hard and commit more crimes, the false alarm rate would
> > actually
> >> drop.   Would the lower percentage mean that alarms are working better?
> > Of
> >> course not.
> >
> > Look, again...put aside your personal feelings. No body is saying the
> > industry is not effective, nor that alarms aren't either. You're side
> > stepping the information, just like the industry. Some of us just want
to
> > see it more, or most effective. Stop focusing on what you think works,
and
> > realize there is a circular pattern here. Realize for every action,
there
> > is
> > a reaction. For every reactive response, there may be a proactive
> > initiative. Think Man!
> >
> >>
> >> Alarm systems are electronic devices that have a certain failure rate,
> > just
> >> like any other piece of electronic equipment, and that failure rate is
> >> not
> >> affected by the number of burglaries that are attempted.  This is just
> > like
> >> fire alarms.  The number of false fire alarms has nothing to do with
the
> >> number of fires.  I'll bet you'd find the percentage of fire alarms
that
> >> are false is also in the high nineties, simply because there are more
and
> >> more fire alarm systems and no corresponding increase in the number of
> >> fires.
> >
> > These numbers aren't based on comparisons. That's how the Politicians
and
> > idiots, use this information.
> > It's a simple fact of economic's, man-hours vs. tax dollars. Alarm
> > installers/dealers aren't paid by tax dollars, responding authorities
are.
> > Think.
> >
> >> Trying to cut that false alarm percentage is a game the alarm companies
> > can
> >> never win.
> >
> > I disagree. Finding the $9 answer for alarm companies will never happen.
> > It's going to be tough because the industry is geared towards being
> > competitive with one another.
> > The industry is too focused on RMR. Lost was the value that alarm
systems
> > could have, or should have provided. It's not everywhere though. Some,
the
> > few, do make, or try to make a difference in the industry. Some of those
> > guys are right here.
> >
> >
>
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