Re: Devcon Buys Out Coastal Security, Adelphia, & Guardian

[Frank Olson <Use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sonicquack wrote:
>  Emergency24 in Chicago for $4.50 per month per account. I charged
> $14.95 per
> month with 30 day written cancellation notice at anytime. I never had a
> customer leave who wasn't moving.
>
> *****************************************************************
>
> There's a new supposedly up and coming monitoring center in Syracuse,
> New York called "Rapid Response Monitoring", or http://www.rrms.com/


You obviously haven't visited their website.  I wouldn't call being
founded in 1992 either "new" or "supposedly up and coming".  They're
employing a slick new webmaster though...  If they used a "bent" instead
of a motorcycle in their "Shockwave" opening page, you'd see Mark L.
posting from somewhere in NY in no time.  :-)

"Serving Dealers who want to exceed the expectations of their own
subscribers and being the best provider of monitoring services,
protecting lives and property, anywhere." (http://www.rrms.com/history.html)


>
> I wonder what they are charging....and Stanley, I realize you have to
> make money to stay in business....and I don't want anyone dropping dead
> by me saying this...but to be fair to the small business owners
> here....
>
> It is probably LESS expensive for a huge company like ADT, or Bell
> South Security from Protection One, or BRINKS (that has only ONE
> monitoring center, and whose own Brinks Armored Guard Division has been
> said to be monitored by ADT) to monitor customers, than small business
> owners, many of whom are posting here.

The cost of monitoring your account base goes down with each customer
you have.  That's simple mathematics.  There's always fixed costs for
equipment, building, staff, etc.  The more customers you have means you
can divide these costs over a larger base.  What school did you graduate
from??  The Donald Duck Academy??


>
> So, why pay a huge conglomerate for monitoring, when you can have
> essentially the same exact services provided, for LESS money in most
> cases, by a smaller dealer?

Because the smaller dealer can't (in most cases) front the cost of
equipment and installation like ADT (or the bigger conglomerates) can...
  If you purchase your system from ADT, the monitoring fees will be a
lot lower too.  I know of several customers that did that and are paying
$18.95/mo.  Get your head out of the weeds and have a *real* look around
there "Ducky"...


>
> Name branding does LESS for your money, rather than more.  If the huge
> conglomerate screws up, they have deeper pockets to pay he lawyers to
> get them out of a jam.  The smaller guys HAVE to do a better job in the
> beginning, during install, in order to KNOW that everything is OK, and
> no one has to worry.

Are you inferring that ADT just "slaps-in" equipment and "goes"??
"Ducky", you've gotta fly to a new pond.  The one you're floating in is
so full of shit it's a wonder you can breathe normally...


>
> The bottom line is the small print, and in it, you will find so many
> exclusions that absolutely NO SECURITY COMPANY out there will be found
> liable if you get broken into  while being monitored.  Otherwise, you
> would find hundreds, if not thousands of lawsuits yearly.


Hmmmm...  In your previous "quack" you said that the huge conglomerates
have "deeper pockets to pay he lawyers to get them out of a jam".  Now
you're saying that the "fine print" excludes that possibility.  Last I
heard there *were* hundreds (if not thousands) of lawsuits against
alarmco's filed every year.  It's the reason responsible alarm dealers
maintain an insurance policy that includes "failure to perform".


>
> THAT is why I say security systems are a rip off, at least monitored
> ones.  Hell, put a few signs in your yard, and ten stickers or so on
> your windows.  No one in their right mind (not that crooks are anyways)
> would try to break in.  They don't know (other than the signs) what you
> have or don't have.

The burg part of a security system is only a component of a total
security package.  There's smoke/fire and gas detection as well.
Stickers are going to do you a whole world of good when it comes to a
fire...  Sho-nuff!!  Yep...  My house is entirely protected by stickers.
    They're the foil kind that'll survive any fire.  I'm sure that if I
put enough of 'em on my house, I could even upgrade its fire rating!


>
> Signs and Stickers are your first line of defense.

Are you sure you haven't immigrated from Europe??  Ever sold any vacuums
or wireless headphones in Belgium by chance??


>
> Or....sign up for a year or two, get the signs and stickers, get new
> ones as your contract nears the end, and then cancel.


How about scanning some in and printing 'em on your colour bubble-jet??