Re: cleaner wiring solution needed

[Crash Gordon® <NONE@xxxxxxxx>]

ok...how about this...running 3 or 4 zones to expansion type =
keypads..saves a ton of wire and time?

run one side of the house to mbr keypad, front of the house to fd =
keypad, etc... ??

same problem ya think?

---how would this differ from the olden days when guys would run wires =
to junction boxes then interconnects to panel?---


"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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> I believe you can still install an addressable system even when every =
point=20
> is home run. Just loop them together in the can..
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> RHC
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> "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
> news:9XU%d.1$wE5.113@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yah that's kinda how I feel too.
> But dang, what if all I knew was addressable systems ? :-)
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message=20
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> > Since you're asking for comments, I'll just say that would be the =
wrong
> > thing to do. If you're being paid outright for the prewire, then =
whether=20
> > you
> > get the follow on alarm system should not really be part of the =
equation.
> > Nor should you do anything in the prewire procedure that would limit =
other
> > companys abilities to come in to bid. If you prewired in such a way =
that=20
> > you
> > limit the type of alarm system that must be put in, then I'd also =
say that
> > is not giving the builder client what he is paying for. Nor for that =

> > matter,
> > the end user homeowner....
> >
> > You asked...my 2 cents...
> >
> > RHC
> >
> > "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:Q3N%d.51$Hp3.1081@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Addressable systems..brings up a point I've wrestled with on and off =
for
> > years.
> >
> > Should I prewire for addressable systems to keep the inexperienced
> > down&dirty trunk slammers from lowballing trim outs on my prewires?
> >
> > Anybody?
> >
> >
> > "Frank Olson" <feolson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%NB%d.750559$8l.652685@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > "Crash Gordon=AE" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:0NA%d.5$Hp3.469@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Yah...Westec did that here too...man their wire costs musta been =
high.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Westec Edmonton was a darn good outfit.  Mostly high end, high=20
> > > visibility
> > > residential.  I recall one of their sales guys getting really =
upset with
> > > the
> > > company I was working for there.  We'd switched to Ademco products =
when
> > > ADI
> > > opened their branch in Edmonton and started installing Vista 40's =
almost
> > > exclusively.  We'd home-run everything in an area of one of these
> > > "monster"
> > > houses (front upper, back upper, front lower, and back lower) to=20
> > > expanders
> > > in a convenient closet.  When Westec took over one of our =
pre-wires,=20
> > > well,
> > > golly gosh darn, the only points that were home run to the actual=20
> > > control
> > > unit were in the basement (+ the keypads).  "What?" I asked.  "You =
mean
> > > you've never heard of an addressable system??"
> > >
> > > The Edmonton franchise holders sold the whole kit and kaboodle to =
ADT in
> > > around 1986/87.  They walked away with a really nice "pile" of =
change...
> > > That's when more than just the name went into the toilet.  ADT was =

> > > selling
> > > the $395 systems then and their residential service sucked.  They=20
> > > couldn't
> > > obtain parts for the Westec panels from California and the =
customers=20
> > > with
> > > these systems wound up bailing on them big time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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