Re: Garage Protection with Pets

[Crash Gordon® <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yah, I see what you mean.


"Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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| The notes section on zone programming says when creating a zone list 4 =

| "do not include zones that have delays (entry/exit zones, interior=20
| w/delay) or 24-hour zones as these zone types may produce =
unpredictable=20
| results and may not function as intended"
| I made the assumption that the small microprocessor used for the panel =

| may only be able to track 1 or a limited number of timer events=20
| simultaneously. It may not be able to do the cross-zone timing while =
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| is doing an entry delay even if 1 triggers the other. It looks like=20
| experiment time!!
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|                           -Bill-
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| Crash Gordon=AE wrote:
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| > I'd use as an interior follower (4).
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| > Interior with Delay should work too, what do you mean conflicting =
timers(?) [again I didn't read it all so  you may know something I =
don't] you could set it to use second entry delay time too.=20
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| > "Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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| > | Crash;
| > |=20
| > | Thanks much for the fast reply. I had missed the cross-zone stuff =
since=20
| > | it was in the zone list, not zone type.
| > | One question comes up, I am adding 2 PIR/WW sensors (zones x and =
y) that=20
| > | will go into zone list 4 (cross zones) The manual indicates that =
the x=20
| > | and y zones must be type 3, 4 or 5 (perimeter burglary, interior=20
| > | follower or day trouble/nitght alarm)
| > | Since we go into the garage when the alarm is armed stay, modes 3 =
and 5=20
| > | don't work as we would trigger the alarm. Mode 4 works, but would =
cause=20
| > | an instant alarm if armed away. Mode 10 (interior with delay) is =
my=20
| > | preferred mode but I don't know if it would work (problem with=20
| > | conflicting timers). Any suggestions?
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| > | Thanks;
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| > |                     -Bill-
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| > |=20
| > | Crash Gordon=AE wrote:
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| > | > Ok...never done it on Vista stuff... so..bear with me,,
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| > | > *85 field is where you set the cross-zone timer
| > | > *81 is where you set up the Zone List...it looks like List 4 is =
where you set the zones to be cross-zoned.
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| > | > Read the *Install* Manual you should be able to figure it out =
from there.
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| > | >=20
| > | > "Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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| > | >=20
| > | >>Hi Crash;
| > | >>
| > | >>I did a quick scan of the manual and didn't see any zone type =
that that=20
| > | >>used 2 triggers to alarm, but my reading wasn't real complete. I =
suppose=20
| > | >>I could put in 2 detectors in a NO loop to effectively AND the =
signals.=20
| > | >>The downside is the on time of about 3 seconds would require the =

| > | >>detectee to move through both detectors at about the same time. =
Thanks=20
| > | >>for the idea, I will look into using a small microprocessor to =
do what=20
| > | >>you suggest to combine multiple sensors with a time window.
| > | >>
| > | >>                          -Bill-
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>Crash Gordon=AE wrote:
| > | >>
| > | >>>I believe the 20P can use cross-zoning, although I've never =
done it with this particular panel. You install 2 motion detectors in =
one area, then program them as cross-zoned with each other. A trip on =
one will not cause an alarm unless the other one also trips within a =
certain time frame (usually programmable in the panel). Then with a =
little creative pir placement you're all set.
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>>"Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
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| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>>>Another newbie question here.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>House is a combo wired/wireless with an Ademco 20P panel. I =
have a=20
| > | >>>>problem protecting the attached 2 car garage. The main garage =
door, the=20
| > | >>>>door to the house and the back door are mag contact protected. =
The=20
| > | >>>>problem is that we have cats and sometimes want to bypass the =
back door=20
| > | >>>>to let them go in/out while away for a short time. Thus I need =
some sort=20
| > | >>>>of "space" protection to pick up someone who may enter via the =

| > | >>>>bypassed/open back door. I first tried an Aurora PIR mounted =
just below=20
| > | >>>>the open rafters. Unfortunately, with small cats, if they =
climb into the=20
| > | >>>>rafters, they are close (and hot) enough to simulate a 40lb =
critter. I=20
| > | >>>>pulled the Ademco and replaced it with a microwave/PIR combo =
unit. Much=20
| > | >>>>better but still managed to false once. I guess I could be =
very careful=20
| > | >>>>in locating the PIR and masking out the usual location that =
the cats=20
| > | >>>>might be in, but I am hoping one of the pros can suggest a =
more=20
| > | >>>>cat-proof volume protection sensor.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>        -Bill-
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >=20
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