Re: Garage Protection with Pets

[Foo Bar <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

The notes section on zone programming says when creating a zone list 4
"do not include zones that have delays (entry/exit zones, interior
w/delay) or 24-hour zones as these zone types may produce unpredictable
results and may not function as intended"
I made the assumption that the small microprocessor used for the panel
may only be able to track 1 or a limited number of timer events
simultaneously. It may not be able to do the cross-zone timing while it
is doing an entry delay even if 1 triggers the other. It looks like
experiment time!!

                          -Bill-


Crash Gordon® wrote:

> I'd use as an interior follower (4).
>
> Interior with Delay should work too, what do you mean conflicting timers(?) [again I didn't read it all so  you may know something I don't] you could set it to use second entry delay time too.
>
> "Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:qINse.30391$J12.14170@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Crash;
> |
> | Thanks much for the fast reply. I had missed the cross-zone stuff since
> | it was in the zone list, not zone type.
> | One question comes up, I am adding 2 PIR/WW sensors (zones x and y) that
> | will go into zone list 4 (cross zones) The manual indicates that the x
> | and y zones must be type 3, 4 or 5 (perimeter burglary, interior
> | follower or day trouble/nitght alarm)
> | Since we go into the garage when the alarm is armed stay, modes 3 and 5
> | don't work as we would trigger the alarm. Mode 4 works, but would cause
> | an instant alarm if armed away. Mode 10 (interior with delay) is my
> | preferred mode but I don't know if it would work (problem with
> | conflicting timers). Any suggestions?
> |
> | Thanks;
> |
> |                     -Bill-
> |
> |
> | Crash Gordon® wrote:
> |
> | > Ok...never done it on Vista stuff... so..bear with me,,
> | >
> | > *85 field is where you set the cross-zone timer
> | > *81 is where you set up the Zone List...it looks like List 4 is where you set the zones to be cross-zoned.
> | >
> | > Read the *Install* Manual you should be able to figure it out from there.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:LxLse.3677$NU5.1068@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >
> | >>Hi Crash;
> | >>
> | >>I did a quick scan of the manual and didn't see any zone type that that
> | >>used 2 triggers to alarm, but my reading wasn't real complete. I suppose
> | >>I could put in 2 detectors in a NO loop to effectively AND the signals.
> | >>The downside is the on time of about 3 seconds would require the
> | >>detectee to move through both detectors at about the same time. Thanks
> | >>for the idea, I will look into using a small microprocessor to do what
> | >>you suggest to combine multiple sensors with a time window.
> | >>
> | >>                          -Bill-
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>Crash Gordon® wrote:
> | >>
> | >>>I believe the 20P can use cross-zoning, although I've never done it with this particular panel. You install 2 motion detectors in one area, then program them as cross-zoned with each other. A trip on one will not cause an alarm unless the other one also trips within a certain time frame (usually programmable in the panel). Then with a little creative pir placement you're all set.
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>"Foo Bar" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:JbIse.3590$NU5.2790@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>>Another newbie question here.
> | >>>>
> | >>>>House is a combo wired/wireless with an Ademco 20P panel. I have a
> | >>>>problem protecting the attached 2 car garage. The main garage door, the
> | >>>>door to the house and the back door are mag contact protected. The
> | >>>>problem is that we have cats and sometimes want to bypass the back door
> | >>>>to let them go in/out while away for a short time. Thus I need some sort
> | >>>>of "space" protection to pick up someone who may enter via the
> | >>>>bypassed/open back door. I first tried an Aurora PIR mounted just below
> | >>>>the open rafters. Unfortunately, with small cats, if they climb into the
> | >>>>rafters, they are close (and hot) enough to simulate a 40lb critter. I
> | >>>>pulled the Ademco and replaced it with a microwave/PIR combo unit. Much
> | >>>>better but still managed to false once. I guess I could be very careful
> | >>>>in locating the PIR and masking out the usual location that the cats
> | >>>>might be in, but I am hoping one of the pros can suggest a more
> | >>>>cat-proof volume protection sensor.
> | >>>>
> | >>>>        -Bill-
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >
> | >