Re: Bypass Telco's NID box?

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Bob Worthy" <securinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Just like everytime there is a phone problem at a home, the first thing
> the
> person asks, at Ma Bell, is "do you have an alarm system?" Answer: "Yes"
> Ma
> Bell response is "Then the problem is your alarm system"
> BHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! True experience: I own two unrelated
> businesses sharing the same facility. The main number for the other
> business
> went dead. I already checked and there was no dial tone at the demark. I
> told the manager to open a trouble ticket. Ma Bell asked their favorite
> question and gave their favorite answer. I told the manager to call back
> and
> tell them the alarm company disconnected the alarm and still had trouble.
> Favorite question #2. "Do you have a telephone system? "Yes" Well, that is
> the problem. I told the manager to call back and tell them "Now that we
> have
> a bill from our alarm company and a bill from our telephone system
> company"
> who is going to get us dial tone at the demark and who is going to pay
> these
> bills?" Of course there were no bills and they did come out after three
> calls and fix the line. Bottom line is that Bell is living is the past
> thinking alarm systems are the "cause all" problem with Bells
> inadequencies.
> There is no thought given to every $9.95 piece of grap telephone,
> answering
> machine, modem, fax, etc., people buy from god knows where and plug into
> their telephone lines. Bell employees, including technicians, may know
> their
> job, but they sure don't know ours. I've tried using bell techs in the
> past
> and they just don't get it if they can't use a staple gun!
>
> Bob4Secur
>
> "Jen...tel" <poleclimber@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Geez you alarm guys have no idea what you're talking about. All it
>> takes is one alarm "technician" to say something and the rest of you go
>> babbling as if it's truth.
>> The location of the entry point is controlled by the dominant carrier
>> of the wireline.  They say where it must be and that's all that's
>> required by federal regulation.  This so called tariff you speak of is
>> a simple federal regulation controlling premise demarcation and MPOE.
>> The wireline carrier states where the demarcation entry point is
>> located.  This is normally the location where the block was first
>> installed at a site.  All changes from that will follow federal
>> regulation for a MPOE.  Move the "box' all you like but we are not
>> responsible for anything past the recorded PAP for the demarcation or
>> MPOE.  One other thing, the box housing the jump & protector is the
>> property of the installing phone company.  Homeowners have no rights to
>> move or alter it.  Its location is based on a permanent recorded
>> federal utility right-of-way.
>> All you alarm guys who moved it without getting Ma's permission have
>> screwed the homeowner.  All it takes is a call.  Qwest will relocate a
>> demarc from for security purposes if a customer ask.  If we move it, a
>> MPOE is established and that means we take on the responsibility.  You
>> homeowners need to stop trusting what alarm technicians say about
>> telephone issues cause those guys know jack about what they are saying.
>>
>>
>> Jenn
>>
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