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Re: newbie needs advice



On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:26:10 +0200, -pull@shoot wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:34 GMT, HamNCheese
><sorry_no_e-mail@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>What kind of response is best?  Is police response worth anything...
>>or is an alarm company's security response worth anything either?
>
>I don't think that monitoring is required just like dyers do as good
>the installation job than "so called" pro's.
> Too many false alarms have lead police to a point that they lower the
>intervention priority of alarm calls.
> Where is the benefit to have monitoring?
>
>Initially the cause of police complains about false alarms was that
>the systems where installed by non pro's, not reliable they said..
> Did the pro's installations improve false alarms, I think so when it
>boils down to selecting the appropriate type of sensor (dog present,
>sunshine,..), but you can have recommendations/advises also, so why
>would a pro installation be better when it boils down to false alarm
>system reliability ?
>
>You can make a parallel between installation knowledge and monitoring,
>why should you need them?
>
>Let's see how I handle alarms without monitoring ?
>
>First, I prefer a silent alarm approach :
>- i don't see who allows himself to involve external persons not
>  directly involved with a noisy sound/flashlight outside.
>  There is already enough unwanted noise around;
>  Its no longer an alarm system according to law when those
>  external devises are not present, Dyer's welcome.
>- i prefer several low volume buzzers, located at multiple
>  places inside my house, in order to inform the intruder that he
>  has been detected.
>  There are enough spare wires in the cables to the
>  sensors to provide the required alarm signal to small buzzers all
>  around the protected area's.
>- i let the system rings directly to my cell phone. If i like to
>  have my neighbor's involved, i give them a personal call and
>  explain them the ongoing problem.
>  At least i will know who is involved to observe the surrounding and
>  who look if the police are arriving, "No direct intervention"!
>- second, i let the system call back hiss own phone-line who will
>  be busy of course (see below for more details).
>
>Is a monitoring station required ?
> The usual arguments of monitoring stations are that they are
>available all the time and that you will not receive the alarm call
>all the time. Well yes and no..
>
>How do i attempt to solve that?
>When an alarm is detected it dial my cell phone and the place
> where the alarm is originated from, my home. Why ?
>Well when i'm not reachable for action (at the theater for instance
> or for any other reason) i
>       "redirect my alarm phone-line conditionally"
> (when the line is busy) to an alternative person who agree to handle
>and take action (police call, system reset afterwards,...).
> When an alarm goes on, my alarm phone-line is busy, so it redirects
>if i have requested it.
>
>Why do i not change the phone number in the alarm control panel to
>redirect the call?
>Redirection by means of a phone is less error risky, it can be done :
>- with my home-phone in a semi-automatic manner, the
>  redirection/cancel data is included and stored in the phone number
>  to call;
>- from my cell phone at any time and place;
>
>So, is monitoring required?
> Do they do a better job whit theyre standard procedures?
> What is theyre REAL police warning response time?
> Is outside warning (yelling and flashing devices) mandatory?
> Are very noisy sirens inside required to disturb intruders?
>
>Well it depends on your choice and how good you will feel
>afterwards about the selected solution.
> How good will you feel when you select an all included out of your
>control handling or your personal intervention when there is an alarm
>going on. Think it over.
>
>Paul



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