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Re: newbie needs advice



Yah Paulie silent alarms are really effective on local alarm systems.
No wonder your piece of crap you bought didn't work...you installed it =
yourself didn't you.=20


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> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 20:51:34 GMT, HamNCheese
> <sorry_no_e-mail@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>=20
> >What kind of response is best?  Is police response worth anything...
> >or is an alarm company's security response worth anything either?
>=20
> I don't think that monitoring is required just like dyers do as good
> the installation job than "so called" pro's.
>  Too many false alarms have lead police to a point that they lower the
> intervention priority of alarm calls.
>  Where is the benefit to have monitoring?
>=20
> Initially the cause of police complains about false alarms was that
> the systems where installed by non pro's, not reliable they said..
>  Did the pro's installations improve false alarms, I think so when it
> boils down to selecting the appropriate type of sensor (dog present,
> sunshine,..), but you can have recommendations/advises also, so why
> would a pro installation be better when it boils down to false alarm
> system reliability ?
>=20
> You can make a parallel between installation knowledge and monitoring,
> why should you need them?
>=20
> Let's see how I handle alarms without monitoring ?
>=20
> First, I prefer a silent alarm approach :
> - i don't see who allows himself to involve external persons not
>   directly involved with a noisy sound/flashlight outside.
>   There is already enough unwanted noise around;
>   Its no longer an alarm system according to law when those
>   external devises are not present, Dyer's welcome.
> - i prefer several low volume buzzers, located at multiple
>   places inside my house, in order to inform the intruder that he
>   has been detected.
>   There are enough spare wires in the cables to the
>   sensors to provide the required alarm signal to small buzzers all
>   around the protected area's.
> - i let the system rings directly to my cell phone. If i like to
>   have my neighbor's involved, i give them a personal call and
>   explain them the ongoing problem.
>   At least i will know who is involved to observe the surrounding and
>   who look if the police are arriving, "No direct intervention"!
> - second, i let the system call back hiss own phone-line who will
>   be busy of course (see below for more details).
>=20
> Is a monitoring station required ?
>  The usual arguments of monitoring stations are that they are
> available all the time and that you will not receive the alarm call
> all the time. Well yes and no..
>=20
> How do i attempt to solve that?
> When an alarm is detected it dial my cell phone and the place
>  where the alarm is originated from, my home. Why ?
> Well when i'm not reachable for action (at the theater for instance
>  or for any other reason) i
>        "redirect my alarm phone-line conditionally"
>  (when the line is busy) to an alternative person who agree to handle
> and take action (police call, system reset afterwards,...).
>  When an alarm goes on, my alarm phone-line is busy, so it redirects
> if i have requested it.
>=20
> Why do i not change the phone number in the alarm control panel to
> redirect the call?
> Redirection by means of a phone is less error risky, it can be done :
> - with my home-phone in a semi-automatic manner, the
>   redirection/cancel data is included and stored in the phone number
>   to call;
> - from my cell phone at any time and place;
>=20
> So, is monitoring required?
>  Do they do a better job whit theyre standard procedures?
>  What is theyre REAL police warning response time?
>  Is outside warning (yelling and flashing devices) mandatory?
>  Are very noisy sirens inside required to disturb intruders?
>=20
> Well it depends on your choice and how good you will feel
> afterwards about the selected solution.
>  How good will you feel when you select an all included out of your
> control handling or your personal intervention when there is an alarm
> going on. Think it over.
>=20
> Paul
>=20
>


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