Re: CADDX NX-6 question from homeowner

["Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I've been practicing my 736P interfaces lately....the rest is small
potatoes....

"Crash Gordon®" <NONE@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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me too; 2 x DSC and 1 x Napco this week alone...no one out there seems to
comply to MY requirements either!


"Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I could say the same line of crap about any Manufacturers control panel.
If
> it wasn't DMP I'd either rip it out, or move on. I seem to be ripping out
a
> lot lately....
>
> "Jim" <alarminex@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Crash Gordon® wrote:
> > Coerce?
> >
> > Does Ferrari coerce people to buy their product? They're exclusive,
> not anyone can service a Ferrari. I don't buy your argument. If you
> don't want to sell Ferrari don't, sell plain vanilla. My clients like
> the products I sell - 80% of them are Ferrari type consumers - the rest
> I sell plain vanilla to also.
> >
>
> The products that you refer to as Ferrari products is simply a sham
> that you've bought into and now have to suck your client into, to
> justify you traping them into using it. Those products usually don't
> have any more "useable" features than any other product. The simple
> fact is, it's "exclusive" simply for the fact that it isn't used by
> most dealers, therefore you like to describe it as a positive feature,
> when, in fact it's simply keeping your clients prisoner. You're
> obviously not going to admit that, but, that's what it winds up to be,
> as far as the end user is concerned whether you intend it or not.
>
> If they all knew that they were trapped into using only your product
> you'd be singing a different tune. Ahhhh, but I'm sure you tell them
> how special they are and deserve to have such a noble product line.
> It's a line, alright .... of BS. And when they decide to change to
> someone else and there's no other company around to take it over
> ....... or they have to pay someone premium prices (because it *is*
> exclusive) to rip it out, because you sold them what you describe as a
> Ferrari but is really a dead end product.
>
> Come-on Crash, whether you intend it or not, the product is
> exclusionary. And not quite falls in to the same category as Brinks and
> anyone eles who has a proprietary panel. There's never any guarantee
> that the end user will be able to get, good, economical or even ANY
> service on an exclsive product and there's no way that you can argue
> with that. The part where I see it most is when someone moves into a
> home or business and finds out that the panel they have is ridiculously
> over priced when service is priced by the "exclusive" dealers at 3 and
> 4 times the going rate. It's a rip off and if you can't see it
> ........... they can.
>
> At times, I've had shelves full of Radionics and ITI equipment that
> dealers ripped off people with around here. Once they got it installed,
> service calls were close to $200.00. Gimme a break. Those dealers
> installed them on purpose because they knew that most dealers wouldn't
> kow tow to quotas or spend that money for an exclusive programer or
> whatever the "fee" was, to join the "club". Those companies lasted
> about 5 years and eventually the word got out and most of their
> equpment wound up in the dump and so did they.
>
> You're going to do, say and rationalize whatever it takes, to justify
> what you sell, but the fact remains, it's exclusionary whether you see
> it that way or not. It is. And by the way, a Ferrari is expensive
> because it's one of the best cars made, not because someone has to meet
> a quota to get it. That is,  It's not a Volkswagon dressed up as a
> Ferrari.
>
>