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Re: Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with xPL_HomeVision (detecting
variable chang
Hi Andy
Is xPL-HVISION reporting all the variables to xPL ???
I have found Periodic Loops set to every loop tend to clog down hv a
lot......Are you using Periodic loops ,every loop ....??
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Kilgore" <andrew.kilgore@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with
xPL_HomeVision (detecting variable chang
> Hi Frank,
>
> I'm pretty sure my xPL/HV setup is fine - everything works, but the
> performance of the actual HV controller dramatically decreases (in
> some circumstances).
>
> The problem is simply due to the amount of work HV has to do handling
> DDE requests when a variable (or flag) gets updated so frequently. My
> understanding is that HV simply says "a variable has
changed" but
> doesn't say which one. So, in order to detect which variables have
> changed, xPL_HomeVision has to request ALL the variable values from HV
> and compare them to the previous values. Doing this every 0.4 seconds
> is just not feasible for HV and controller slows considerably, such
> that there is a noticable delay in responding to input ports changing
> etc.
>
> I think there could be a nice way to tackle this but it would require
> a change to xPL_HomeVision - I'll drop Steve a mail offlist and see if
> he thinks it's worth it.
>
> To test, try updating one of the variables you "watch" in a
periodic
> event that runs every loop and then have a play with something
> connected to HV input ports, say FirM.
> What I observed was that the LED which used to change colour every 0.4
> seconds, now took ~3 seconds to change purely because HV was busy
> handling DDE requests.
>
> Let me know how it goes... ;o)
>
> Thanks,
> Andy.
>
> On 5/21/05, Frank Mc Alinden <frankmc@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hi Andy
> > What exactly are you trying to achieve ...??
> > I dont think the issue is having variable reporting being
> > enabled...although
> > might be an idea to to export your latest hv file and create 2
new
hvinput
> > and hvexclude files and only exclude what you need reporting on
???
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrew Kilgore" <andrew.kilgore@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 12:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with
> > xPL_HomeVision (detecting variable chang
> >
> >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the tips - I'm certain they'll be very useful...
> > >
> > > After all our hard work, it turns out that having HV notify
me of
> > > variable changes will not work efficiently for me. As a
test I was
> > > playing about with my immersion (momentary) switch which
starts a
> > > timer for 0.4 seconds. Everytime the timer fires I change
the colour
> > > of an LED and restart the timer. This continues until the
switch is
> > > released. This worked fine but runs like a dog with
variable
reporting
> > > enabled (as the timer event sets a couple of variables)
> > >
> > > :o(
> > >
> > > I'll have to think of another way round this - will let you
know what
> > > I come up with...!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andy.
> > >
> > > On 5/21/05, Frank Mc Alinden <frankmc@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Hi Andy
> > > > Not sure if you are aware but if you need
to create a
> > > > Determinator when a Particular event has occurred ie
change in
> > variable
> > ,
> > > > if
> > > > you highlite the reported message in xPL -Mon and
right click ,
then
> > select
> > > > create a Determinator , this will automagically
create the input
> > condition
> > > > for your Determinator , you then only have to create
the Actions
> > section
> > > > of
> > > > the Determinator...-)
> > > >
> > > > Also theres another option when you right click ,
Populate a
Global
> > and
> > > > this
> > > > will allow you to save say the value of the variable
in to an xPL
> > Global ,
> > > > it requests which section of the message to store in
the Global (
> > current=
> > > > in this case) and then create the Determinator...;-)
> > > >
> > > > The Determinator i wrote last nite captures a hv
periodic event
> > "Vacancy
> > > > Counter 2" which decrements a variable once
every 5 minutes if no
> > movement
> > > > or ir detected.....
> > > >
> > > > I have it displaying a message saying the variable
has changed and
> > also
> > > > the
> > > > current value of the variable using the 2
Determinators mentioned
> > > > above..........
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "fondlezz" <amkilgore@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:47 AM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs
help with
> > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > (detecting variable chang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Eureka!
> > > > >
> > > > > I got it working just as your mail came
through...
> > > > > I hadn't initially enabled the automatic
reporting of variables
and
> > > > > tried earler but this seemed to have no effect.
What I didn't
> > realise
> > > > > is that I needed to reload my schedule into HV
for this to take
> > > > effect...!
> > > > >
> > > > > It's now working perfectly!
> > > > > Thanks you so much for all your help! I think
(this time) I'm
well
> > on
> > > > > my way to finally integrating xPL into my setup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now we can sleep!
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks,
> > > > > Andy.
> > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc
Alinden"
<frankmc@i...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have enabled the DDE message
reporting........
> > > > > > Also Under controller setting , pc comms i
also have Variables
> > ticked
> > > > to
> > > > > > enable auto reporting...??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > xPL-HVISION setting which you access via
xPL devices in xPL
> > > > > Manager , i
> > > > > > have ddespeed set at 500 and lastsent at 3
and assumeok set
to
> > > > Y.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "fondlezz"
<amkilgore@n...>
> > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 11:28 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!)
needs help with
> > > > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > > > (detecting variable chang
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks - I got it off the files
section...
> > > > > > > Still same problem though... :o(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So, I'm thinking the reason that
xPL_HomeVision doesn't
detect
> > the
> > > > > > > change is bacuse HV isn't telling
it... I'm starting to
think
> > that
> > > > > > > there's something not quite right with
my HV setup...
> > > > > > > Did you have to change anything other
than enabling DDE
> > > > > send/receive...?
> > > > > > > What version of the HV software are
you running...?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Andy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank
Mc Alinden"
> > <frankmc@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > > > > Have uploaded my
version to the files section
of
> > the
> > > > > list
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Frank Mc
Alinden" <frankmc@i...>
> > > > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005
10:32 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL
newbie (still!) needs help
> > with
> > > > > > > > xPL_HomeVision (detecting
variable chang
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > xPL-HVISION file
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