Re: Re: xPLHal hung on startup

["Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Bob

> 11/12/04 14:25:44
>
> xpl-trig
> {
> hop=1
> source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> target=*
> }
> x10.confirm
> {
> command=ON
> device=F16
> name=Air Compressor
> }
>
> Does this all look OK?

Yes that looks ok...so it should have turned on the compressor ???? only
issue is the 5 seconds...


> ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never see any
> DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might need to
> configure for the xPL DDE?

Go back into xplmanager and click on xpl devices click on xpl hvision and
have a look at the
ddespeed setting (not sure what the initial value is) i have mine set to
500
and works ok....
If this doesnt speed things up i would suggest closing the ace app and then
retry to see if that makes any difference...

The only dde enabling is done in hv and i assume this is already done if
ace
is using dde

HTH
Frank


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 9:33 AM
Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup


>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Still plugging away.  The second instance of hvision is gone now and
> everything appears good.  Still get three messages in the xPL monitor
> window when I press a button on the remote, but still get no action
> from Homevision.  I thought it might help if I copied the script from
> the hvision windows.  When I press the button I see this in the RX
> window:
>
> 11/12/04 14:25:39
>
> xpl-cmnd
> {
> hop=1
> source=XPL-XPLHAL.HOMECONTROL1
> target=GSHED-HVISION.HOMECONTRO105634
> }
> x10.basic
> {
> command=on
> device=F16
> }
>
> The 5 seconds later I see this in both the TX and RX window:
>
> 11/12/04 14:25:44
>
> xpl-trig
> {
> hop=1
> source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
> target=*
> }
> x10.confirm
> {
> command=ON
> device=F16
> name=Air Compressor
> }
>
> Does this all look OK?
>
> ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never see any
> DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might need to
> configure for the xPL DDE?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
>
> --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<fmcalind@b...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Bob
> >
> > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the
plugins so
> that
> > > the monitor would work.
> >
> > Thats good....
> >
> >
> > >When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message
from the
> > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message
from
> > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the
third
> one
> > > is an X10.CONFIRM.
> >
> >
> > Thats correct although the 5 seconds later is too long this could
> be due to
> > having  two instances of xplhvision running......
> >
> > >One thing I see is that
> > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in
the
> xPL
> > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not
> >
> > In the tray at the bottom there are xpl icons ,move the mouse
over
> then to
> > see if there are two gshed-hvision,s...if so right click on one
and
> close it
> > .....
> >
> > >so I get a
> > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to
start
> >
> > Yep thats correct hv must be running first
> >
> > > The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the
> xPLHal
> > > service hung at startup.
> >
> > Sorry  John / Tony will have to help here........
> >
> > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I
look
> > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they
will be
> very
> > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > >
> >
> > Im sure he will do his best to have the update done in the very
near
> > future...
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:24 AM
> > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > >
> > > Thanks for sticking with me - I'm really close.
> > >
> > > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the
plugins so
> that
> > > the monitor would work.
> > >
> > > I do have my W800 and I can see the commands in the monitor
> window.
> > > Following your directions to George, I tried to add a few
> > > determinators.  I started with easy ones that receive X10
signals
> > > from the W800 and send X10 commands to HV.  In the monitor,
> > > everything appears to work.  When I press a button on an RF
> remote, I
> > > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message
from the
> > > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message
from
> > > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the
third
> one
> > > is an X10.CONFIRM.  Unfortunately Homevision never responds
to the
> > > command and doesn't send an X10 signal.  One thing I see is
that
> > > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in
the
> xPL
> > > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not.  I have
> tried to
> > > delete one but haven't figured out how to do that - any
> suggestions?
> > >
> > > I need to have this PC reboot and start everything
unattended for
> > > when we are not here - power glitches, etc., so I tried to
put the
> > > xPLHvision fle in the startup folder.  This works but it
seems to
> > > start up before Homevision which is in the same folder so I
get a
> > > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to
start
> > > it.  I think I can fix this by starting xp\PLHvision from a
macro
> > > that does some other configuration things at startup.  I'll
try
> that.
> > >
> > > The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the
> xPLHal
> > > service hung at startup.
> > >
> > > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I
look
> > > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they
will be
> very
> > > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
> <fmcalind@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi Bob
> > > >             I will try and answer some questions
,hopefully John
> > > will answer
> > > > the hard ones ;-)
> > > >
> > > > xPLHAL issue John will have to advise
> > > >
> > > > >Now that this is done, do I need to do anything
with the
> > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup
folder or is
> it
> > > now
> > > > > installed in xPLHal
> > > >
> > > > In my setup i start it manually everytime after the pc
boots
> up.....
> > > >
> > > > >However, when I
> > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that
the xpl-
> schema-
> > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade
it in the
> > > plugins
> > > > > folder.  What is this all about?
> > > >
> > > > You have installed the xplhvision app and w800
app...these
> plugin
> > > files have
> > > > information regarding the apps ...Having this info
makes it nice
> > > and easy to
> > > > create Determinators...
> > > > In the mani screen of xPLHAL  click on help , then
plugin
> > > library..this will
> > > > bring up the  plugin  screen , select all and then
OK.....a
> little
> > > while
> > > > later it will say all the  plugins are loaded.......
> > > >
> > > > >  Once this is fixed, am I correct
> > > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the
W800RF messages?
> > > >
> > > > If all is ok yes you should see messages from the
w800...Have
> you
> > > received
> > > > your w800 ??
> > > > HTH
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:17 AM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Well I set the service to Manual, rebooted, and
then started
> the
> > > > > service.  It started fine - took about 5 seconds
and no
> errors.  I
> > > > > followed your recommendations, opened xPLHal
Manager and
> > > configured
> > > > > xPLHal and xPLHal showed up under xPL Devices just
as you
> said.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then I put the service back in automatic and
rebooted and had
> the
> > > > > same problem.  I get a dialog box that says some
service has
> > > failed
> > > > > to start and to review the event viewer.  When I
look at the
> > > viewer,
> > > > > it says that xPLHal service has hung on startup. 
Although
> when I
> > > go
> > > > > into services it shows that the service is running
fine.  I
> need
> > > to
> > > > > get Windows to stop thinking the service has hung
- any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Since I got that far, I also ran the
xPLHvision.exe plugin and
> > > > > installed the W800RF plugin.  The I went into
xPLHal manager
> and
> > > > > configured them both so that they now show up as
xPL devices.
> > > > > Question - Now that this is done, do I need to do
anything
> with
> > > the
> > > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup
folder or is
> it
> > > now
> > > > > installed in xPLHal and I don't need to do
anything else with
> it?
> > > > >
> > > > > So now I figure I should at least be able to go
into the
> monitor
> > > and
> > > > > see messages being sent from the W800RF receiver. 
However,
> when I
> > > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that
the xpl-
> schema-
> > > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade
it in the
> > > plugins
> > > > > folder.  What is this all about?  Once this is
fixed, am I
> correct
> > > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the
W800RF messages?
> > > > >
> > > > > Progress seems slow but there is a lot to learn. 
Thanks for
> all
> > > the
> > > > > help so far.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "John B"
<home-
> automation@j...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Bob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > So far I have installed the .NET
framework, the DevCom
> > > > > installation
> > > > > > > package and xPLHal.  The problem is
that, when I boot, I
> get a
> > > > > > > message that a service has not started. 
When I look at
> the
> > > Event
> > > > > > > Viewer, the message is that the xPLHal
service hung during
> > > > > startup.
> > > > > > > When I look at services it says that the
xPLHal service is
> > > > > running.
> > > > > > > I also notice that the computer mouse is
very sluggish
> all of
> > > a
> > > > > > > sudden.  If I disable the service and
reboot everything is
> > > good
> > > > > again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try setting the service startup type to
"Manual" - this will
> > > > > prevent it from starting automatically when
Windows starts,
> which
> > > > > should help to debug the problem.
> > > > > > Then, reboot your computer, and once it's
rebooted, try
> starting
> > > > > the xPLHal service manually (right-click on xPLHal
in the
> list of
> > > > > services and click Start).
> > > > > > See how long the service takes to start - it
shouldn't be
> more
> > > than
> > > > > a few seconds.
> > > > > > (maybe 8-10 seconds max.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Once started (assuming it does start with no
errors), open
> up
> > > the
> > > > > xPLHal Manager (there should be a link under your
Start
> > > Menu/Programs
> > > > > for xPLHal Manager).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When xPLHal Manager starts up, click on xPL
Devices and see
> if
> > > > > anything is listed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then expand the xPL Devices node in the tree
and click on
> > > Awaiting
> > > > > Configuration - again, see if anything is listed.
> > > > > > If you see something like XPL-XPLHAL.<your
computer name>1
> > > listed
> > > > > under the awaiting configuration node,
double-click on it.
> > > > > > This will bring up it's configuration screen.
> > > > > > Select "newconf" from the list of
configurable items
> (probably
> > > > > already selected by default) and enter a name for
your xPLHal
> > > server -
> > > > >  you may just want to use your computer name.
> > > > > > Click OK to close the config dialog.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, when you look under the xPL Devices
node, you should
> see
> > > > > xPLHal listed, along with the new name that you've
given it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let us know how you get on with the above -
hopefully we can
> > > > > pinpoint what the problem could be depend on how
much of the
> above
> > > > > works for you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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