Re: xPLHal hung on startup

["Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Frank,

Still plugging away.  The second instance of hvision is gone now and
everything appears good.  Still get three messages in the xPL monitor
window when I press a button on the remote, but still get no action
from Homevision.  I thought it might help if I copied the script from
the hvision windows.  When I press the button I see this in the RX
window:

11/12/04 14:25:39

xpl-cmnd
{
hop=1
source=XPL-XPLHAL.HOMECONTROL1
target=GSHED-HVISION.HOMECONTRO105634
}
x10.basic
{
command=on
device=F16
}

The 5 seconds later I see this in both the TX and RX window:

11/12/04 14:25:44

xpl-trig
{
hop=1
source=gshed-hvision.homecontro105634
target=*
}
x10.confirm
{
command=ON
device=F16
name=Air Compressor
}

Does this all look OK?

ACE has a Homevision DDE monitor that I can open and I never see any
DDE messages form xPL.  Is there something else that I might need to
configure for the xPL DDE?

Thanks,

Bob

--- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@b...>
wrote:
> Hi Bob
>
> > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the plugins so
that
> > the monitor would work.
>
> Thats good....
>
>
> >When I press a button on an RF remote, I
> > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message from the
> > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message from
> > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the third
one
> > is an X10.CONFIRM.
>
>
> Thats correct although the 5 seconds later is too long this could
be due to
> having  two instances of xplhvision running......
>
> >One thing I see is that
> > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in the
xPL
> > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not
>
> In the tray at the bottom there are xpl icons ,move the mouse over
then to
> see if there are two gshed-hvision,s...if so right click on one and
close it
> .....
>
> >so I get a
> > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to start
>
> Yep thats correct hv must be running first
>
> > The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the
xPLHal
> > service hung at startup.
>
> Sorry  John / Tony will have to help here........
>
> > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I look
> > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they will be
very
> > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> >
>
> Im sure he will do his best to have the update done in the very near
> future...
>
> Frank
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 7:24 AM
> Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > Thanks for sticking with me - I'm really close.
> >
> > I figured out the plugin thing and updated all of the plugins so
that
> > the monitor would work.
> >
> > I do have my W800 and I can see the commands in the monitor
window.
> > Following your directions to George, I tried to add a few
> > determinators.  I started with easy ones that receive X10 signals
> > from the W800 and send X10 commands to HV.  In the monitor,
> > everything appears to work.  When I press a button on an RF
remote, I
> > see a CMND type message to Homevision and a TRIG message from the
> > W800 and then about 5 seconds later I see a TRIG message from
> > Homevision.  The first two messages are X10.BASIC and the third
one
> > is an X10.CONFIRM.  Unfortunately Homevision never responds to
the
> > command and doesn't send an X10 signal.  One thing I see is that
> > somehow I have managed to get two copies of the HV plugin in the
xPL
> > devices.  Don't know if this is contributing or not.  I have
tried to
> > delete one but haven't figured out how to do that - any
suggestions?
> >
> > I need to have this PC reboot and start everything unattended for
> > when we are not here - power glitches, etc., so I tried to put
the
> > xPLHvision fle in the startup folder.  This works but it seems to
> > start up before Homevision which is in the same folder so I get a
> > dialog box that says Homevision isn't running and I need to start
> > it.  I think I can fix this by starting xp\PLHvision from a macro
> > that does some other configuration things at startup.  I'll try
that.
> >
> > The next thing I need to figure out is this message that the
xPLHal
> > service hung at startup.
> >
> > I also got some DS10A remote sensors and they work great.  I look
> > forward to Mal adding this capability at some point they will be
very
> > helpful for remote wireless sensing.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<fmcalind@b...>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Bob
> > >             I will try and answer some questions ,hopefully
John
> > will answer
> > > the hard ones ;-)
> > >
> > > xPLHAL issue John will have to advise
> > >
> > > >Now that this is done, do I need to do anything with the
> > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup folder
or is
it
> > now
> > > > installed in xPLHal
> > >
> > > In my setup i start it manually everytime after the pc boots
up.....
> > >
> > > >However, when I
> > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that the
xpl-
schema-
> > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade it in
the
> > plugins
> > > > folder.  What is this all about?
> > >
> > > You have installed the xplhvision app and w800 app...these
plugin
> > files have
> > > information regarding the apps ...Having this info makes it
nice
> > and easy to
> > > create Determinators...
> > > In the mani screen of xPLHAL  click on help , then plugin
> > library..this will
> > > bring up the  plugin  screen , select all and then OK.....a
little
> > while
> > > later it will say all the  plugins are loaded.......
> > >
> > > >  Once this is fixed, am I correct
> > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the W800RF
messages?
> > >
> > > If all is ok yes you should see messages from the
w800...Have
you
> > received
> > > your w800 ??
> > > HTH
> > > Frank
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Gardner" <gardner.bob@g...>
> > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:17 AM
> > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPLHal hung on startup
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > Well I set the service to Manual, rebooted, and then
started
the
> > > > service.  It started fine - took about 5 seconds and no
errors.  I
> > > > followed your recommendations, opened xPLHal Manager
and
> > configured
> > > > xPLHal and xPLHal showed up under xPL Devices just as
you
said.
> > > >
> > > > Then I put the service back in automatic and rebooted
and had
the
> > > > same problem.  I get a dialog box that says some
service has
> > failed
> > > > to start and to review the event viewer.  When I look
at the
> > viewer,
> > > > it says that xPLHal service has hung on startup. 
Although
when I
> > go
> > > > into services it shows that the service is running
fine.  I
need
> > to
> > > > get Windows to stop thinking the service has hung - any
ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Since I got that far, I also ran the xPLHvision.exe
plugin and
> > > > installed the W800RF plugin.  The I went into xPLHal
manager
and
> > > > configured them both so that they now show up as xPL
devices.
> > > > Question - Now that this is done, do I need to do
anything
with
> > the
> > > > xPLHvision.exe file like put it into the startup folder
or is
it
> > now
> > > > installed in xPLHal and I don't need to do anything
else with
it?
> > > >
> > > > So now I figure I should at least be able to go into
the
monitor
> > and
> > > > see messages being sent from the W800RF receiver. 
However,
when I
> > > > select the monitor in xPLHal, I get a message that the
xpl-
schema-
> > > > collection.xml file is missing and I must upgrade it in
the
> > plugins
> > > > folder.  What is this all about?  Once this is fixed,
am I
correct
> > > > that I should be able to at least monitor the W800RF
messages?
> > > >
> > > > Progress seems slow but there is a lot to learn. 
Thanks for
all
> > the
> > > > help so far.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "John B" <home-
automation@j...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Bob,
> > > > >
> > > > > > So far I have installed the .NET framework,
the DevCom
> > > > installation
> > > > > > package and xPLHal.  The problem is that,
when I boot, I
get a
> > > > > > message that a service has not started.  When
I look at
the
> > Event
> > > > > > Viewer, the message is that the xPLHal
service hung during
> > > > startup.
> > > > > > When I look at services it says that the
xPLHal service is
> > > > running.
> > > > > > I also notice that the computer mouse is very
sluggish
all of
> > a
> > > > > > sudden.  If I disable the service and reboot
everything is
> > good
> > > > again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try setting the service startup type to
"Manual" - this will
> > > > prevent it from starting automatically when Windows
starts,
which
> > > > should help to debug the problem.
> > > > > Then, reboot your computer, and once it's
rebooted, try
starting
> > > > the xPLHal service manually (right-click on xPLHal in
the
list of
> > > > services and click Start).
> > > > > See how long the service takes to start - it
shouldn't be
more
> > than
> > > > a few seconds.
> > > > > (maybe 8-10 seconds max.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Once started (assuming it does start with no
errors), open
up
> > the
> > > > xPLHal Manager (there should be a link under your Start
> > Menu/Programs
> > > > for xPLHal Manager).
> > > > >
> > > > > When xPLHal Manager starts up, click on xPL
Devices and see
if
> > > > anything is listed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then expand the xPL Devices node in the tree and
click on
> > Awaiting
> > > > Configuration - again, see if anything is listed.
> > > > > If you see something like XPL-XPLHAL.<your
computer name>1
> > listed
> > > > under the awaiting configuration node, double-click on
it.
> > > > > This will bring up it's configuration screen.
> > > > > Select "newconf" from the list of
configurable items
(probably
> > > > already selected by default) and enter a name for your
xPLHal
> > server -
> > > >  you may just want to use your computer name.
> > > > > Click OK to close the config dialog.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, when you look under the xPL Devices node, you
should
see
> > > > xPLHal listed, along with the new name that you've
given it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let us know how you get on with the above -
hopefully we can
> > > > pinpoint what the problem could be depend on how much
of the
above
> > > > works for you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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