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If it's NVIDIA just set the under scan to 0% - that's what I had to do -
an=
d ensure you don't have HDMI overscan enabled on that HDMI input (it
exists=
on my Panny plasma ... Might not on yours).
Phil
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
> On 28 Nov 2014, at 19:07, Tim Hawes timsyahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Thanks again.
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> Yes, the picture over HDMI is complete but just floats in the middle
of t=
he screen. The slider for over/underscan appears to just scale this image
-=
there's no difference in "quality" for different positions of the
slider.=
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> The tv/monitor says it is 1920x1080 even when the image is floating.
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> Perhaps I'll try the manufacturer of the graphics card. It's an nvidia
bu=
t I was surprised not to see a user/support forum. Perhaps I wasn't
looking=
hard enough.
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> I'll persevere and post back if I find any improvement.
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> Thanks for the suggestions so far.
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> Cheers,
> Tim.
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>> On 19 November 2014 at 08:25, Marcus Warrington
marcus.warrington@mis-es=
.com [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> When you say the desktop has shrunk do you mean it has black
borders aro=
und it and its just floating in the middle of the screen?
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>> If a PS3 connected gives a decent picture then it possibly sounds
more l=
ike the PC sending the wrong resolution ? Can you double check that it
defi=
nitely is sending 1920x1080.
>>=20
>>=20=20
>>=20
>> I seem to remember the Samsung remote has an info button that will
show =
the resolution and refresh rate that panel is showing. Maybe try pressing
i=
nfo when the PC is sending a signal ?
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>>=20=20
>>=20
>> Marcus
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>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>> Sent: 18 November 2014 13:06
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] TV / Monitor Problem
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>> Neil, Tim, Marcus,
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>> Thanks for all your comments.
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>> I did have a go at adjusting the settings but could see no real
improvem=
ent. I'm not sure I was particularly systematic though and there must be
so=
mething amiss as when I switch to PC-via-HDMI the desktop - although
comple=
te - has shrunk on the screen compared to the full-sized VGA picture. I
can=
make it bigger with one of the adjustments but I'm not convinced this is f=
ixing it "properly", as the image was no clearer even when it
filled the fr=
ame.
>>=20
>>=20=20
>>=20
>> I did plug in a PS3 through the same HDMI socket and that had a
perfect =
picture...
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>> More investigation and fiddling needed I think, but thanks for the
point=
ers.
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>> Marcus - did you initially have a poor picture and after
adjustment was =
great, or was it good right from the beginning?
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>> Thanks again,
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>> Tim.
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>> On 18 November 2014 10:52, Marcus Warrington
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx=
m [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> As Neil said, I suspect you just need to make sure the 1:1 pixel
mappin=
g is setup correctly (i.e. screen-fit) You also need to turn off the pixel
=
shifting under the Screen Burn protection.
>>=20
>> I have XBMC on a small Acer Revo box connected to our 59=E2=80=9D
3D Sam=
sung Plasma via HDMI and the picture is spot on. Big advantage of HDMI
over=
VGA is that the sound is also sent over the same cable, so just one connec=
tion required
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>> Marcus
>>=20
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>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
>> Sent: 15 November 2014 11:55
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] TV / Monitor Problem
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>> Hi, I have seen this too - I have a 48" Samsung 3D LCD screen
which is a=
mazing via VGA at 1920x1080 but via HDMI its awful - very poor colour and
j=
agged text - I tried a number of graphic options different cables,
graphics=
cards all to no avail - its no biggie, but irritating and unexplained, so =
I feel your pain.
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>> Tim.
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<div>If it's NVIDIA just set the under scan to 0% - that's what I had
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- and ensure you don't have HDMI overscan enabled on that HDMI input (it e=
xists on my Panny plasma ... Might not on
yours).</div><div><br>Phil<div><b=
r></div><div>Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...</div><=
/div><div><br>On 28 Nov 2014, at 19:07, Tim Hawes <a
href=3D"mailto:timsyah=
oo@xxxxxxx">timsyahoo@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"mai=
lto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks
again.<div><br></div><div>Yes, the picture over
HDM=
I is complete but just floats in the middle of the screen. The slider for
o=
ver/underscan appears to just scale this image - there's no difference in
"=
quality" for different positions of the
slider. </div><div>The tv/moni=
tor says it is 1920x1080 even when the image is
floating.</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Perhaps I'll try the manufacturer of the graphics card.
It's an nvi=
dia but I was surprised not to see a user/support forum. Perhaps I wasn't
l=
ooking hard
enough.</div><div><br></div><div>I'll
persevere and post back i=
f I find any
improvement.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks
for the suggestio=
ns so
far.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Tim.</div><div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 19 November 2014=
at 08:25, Marcus Warrington <a href=3D"mailto:marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx=
">marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <span
dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div bgcolor=3D"white" lang=3D"EN-GB"
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">When you say the desktop
has shrunk d=
o you mean it has black borders around it and its just floating in the
midd=
le of the
screen?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If a PS3 connected gives
a decent pic=
ture then it possibly sounds more like the PC sending the wrong resolution
=
? Can you double check
that it definitely is sending
1920x1080.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I seem to remember the
Samsung remote=
has an info button that will show the resolution and refresh rate that pan=
el is showing. Maybe
try pressing info when the PC is sending a signal
?<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial",sans-serif;color:#548dd4">Marcus
</span></b><i><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
,sans-serif;color:#548dd4"><u></u><u></u></span></i></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang=3D"EN-=
US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
=
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@yahoogro=
ups.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_bl=
ank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 November 2014 13:06<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] TV / Monitor
Problem<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Neil, Tim,
Marcus,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for all your
comments.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I did have a go at adjusting the
settings but could =
see no real improvement. I'm not sure I was particularly systematic though
=
and there must be something amiss as when I switch to PC-via-HDMI the
deskt=
op - although complete - has shrunk
on the screen compared to the full-sized VGA picture. I can make it bigger=
with one of the adjustments but I'm not convinced this is fixing it
"prope=
rly", as the image was no clearer even when it filled the
frame.<u></u><u><=
/u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I did plug in a PS3 through the same
HDMI socket and=
that had a perfect
picture...<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">More investigation and fiddling
needed I think, but =
thanks for the pointers.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Marcus - did you initially have a
poor picture and a=
fter adjustment was great, or was it good right from the
beginning?<u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks
again,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Tim.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 18 November 2014 10:52, Marcus
Warrington <a href=
=3D"mailto:marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com"
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<u></u>=
<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As Neil said, I
suspect you jus=
t need to make sure the 1:1 pixel mapping is setup correctly
(i.e.</span><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">
screen-fit) You also need to turn off the pixel shifting under the Screen =
Burn
protection.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I have XBMC on a small
Acer Revo box =
connected to our 59=E2=80=9D 3D Samsung Plasma via HDMI and the picture
is spot on. Big advantage of HDMI over VGA is that the sound is also sent =
over the same cable, so just one connection
required</span><u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial",sans-serif;color:#548dd4">Marcus
</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang=3D"EN-=
US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@yahoogro=
ups.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_bl=
ank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 15 November 2014 11:55<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] TV / Monitor
Problem</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p>Hi, I have seen this too - I have a 48" Samsung 3D LCD screen
which is a=
mazing via VGA at 1920x1080 but via HDMI its awful - very poor colour and
j=
agged text - I tried a number of graphic options different cables,
graphics=
cards all to no avail - its no
biggie, but irritating and unexplained, so I feel your
pain.<u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Tim.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u><=
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