RE: Re: Cloud backup/archiving?

[Paul Gale <groups2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

No I don't - they are very expensive!

I do regularly restore from the tapes using the same machine though (when I
need to unarchive various files). So I know the tapes are written OK from
this drive (do a full verify too) - I guess it is possible due to alignment
and other issues that only a particular drive can read tapes created by
itself?

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex
Monaghan
Sent: 14 August 2010 09:49
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Cloud backup/archiving?

Adding to costs, but do you have an alternative DLT to confirm you can read
the tapes? I used to work for a company who didn't verify their tapes were
readable and after a theft were unable to read the tapes on an alternative
drive as the original was faulty (even a specialist recovery company gave
up saying the original tape drive was so out of alignment their custom
designed solution couldn't read the tapes)

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul
Gale
Sent: 14 August 2010 09:42
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Cloud backup/archiving?

Yes, good points. I do have a DLT drive for archiving anyway.

I guess the other significant factor on cloud backup is speed of restore -
could be pretty slow for OS type backups. Maybe really only good for
personal files backup.

Paul.

On 14 Aug 2010, at 09:18, "Alex Monaghan" <ha@xxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I would suggest archive should be something under your full control.
> It
may
> be a lot of work, but, to dump data to DVD or off-line hard disks and
> to store in a trusted location (or duplicate locations) is really the
> only
way
> to be sure. I guess also, you may want to look at methods for media
refresh
> to allow for new media types and to ensure no issue due to media
> storage lifetime (run the hard disks every x months, verify the DVD's
> & re-copy every so often to ensure fresh media)
>
> The archive policy I wrote for the local charity I used to work with
> required them to burn each project's collection of documents and media
files
> to DVD and to store these with their paper archive. Daily backup was
> to a NAS in their other office (couple of miles physical separation)
> so accidental deletion was recoverable but archive was a deliberate
> manual process to be included at project close down.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Paul Gale
> Sent: 14 August 2010 08:33
> To: 'ukha_d@xxxxxxx'
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Cloud backup/archiving?
>
> Thanks for the good post.
>
> I've gone with Jungle Disk for the moment - will see how it goes...
>
> I do like the look of Onlinestoragesolution - but it makes me nervous
> - is the offer too good to be true? Will they be there in a year or
> two??? I guess backup is safe but archiving may not be such a good
idea?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of jabberwockpl
> Sent: 13 August 2010 22:18
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Cloud backup/archiving?
>
> I have just setup my own cloud backup solution, so I can give you a
> short, but very subjective review. Your mileage might vary and
probably will.
>
> I have been looking for an inexpensive backup solution for quite some
time.
> I was particularly interested in WebDAV support, as my router
> (Fritz!Box -
a
> great automation companion) already supports it and my NAS (DNS-323)
> soon will.
>
> Unfortunately, none of the services looked ideal. I decided to have a
> look at three services: MemoPal, Carbonite and OpenDrive (price was
> decisive factor, I must admit).
>
> First I tried Carbonite - it has a trial period. Unfortunately, their
> app did not install at all and support did not respond in a reasonable
time.
>
> Then I had a look at OpenDrive. It looked good, although also limited
> to their app. Unfortunately, I could not make it to work in an
> automated fashion (using SyncbackSE). Manual syncing was out of
question, naturally.
> Also, the Home plan offered 100 GB - my backup files do not exceed the
size,
> but at 60 GB they are not really that far - in a year a lot of data
> can be produced (home files, photos, two small companies' data).
>
> So I settled for MemoPal. It worked fine in the beginning and I
> purchased
a
> year plan (200 GB for 49 Euros). It supports WebDAV, too.
>
> Their backup app worked fine... until I pointed my network drive. No
> such luck! It flatly refused to acknowledge the fact. Nothing was
backed up.
Then
> I tried SyncbackSE with WebDAV... Error after error. I went back to
> the
site
> and read the whole WebDAV FAQ - it turns out that it supports
read-only!
No
> way to backup with WebDAV.
>
> The fine and nice folks from MemoPal offered to fix my problems in a
remote
> connection session. After an hour and a half (I must admit I was a
> pretty difficult client - Windows with a swapped shell, no desktop,
> all programs run from FARR - the poor guy could not make heads or
> tails of my system) they gave up and generously offered to provide a
refund.
>
> I went searching again and came up with OnlineStorageSolution. I was
rather
> wary in the beginning, as it looked too good to be true - unlimited
> (yes, you read that right!) storage for USD 29, FTP/WebDAV/rsync
> access, but no trial...
>
> I took the plunge and I must say I am cautiously optimistic -
> SyncBackSE happily backs up my files to FTP (it would even better if I
> had given it right settings!) for the last two days and I did not have
> any issues with it.
>
> Of course, I will be able to do a better review of the service in
> about a year. The reviews I have found online are usually good, but
> not overly enthusiastic (they praise mostly the price). We will see...
>
> Oops... it was not that short after all...
>
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