Re: Comfort Design Question

[Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mike

When you speak of krone blocks I assume you mean these?

http://www.repsole.com/Product.asp?PID=976

So are you suggestion the following

1 Terminate all Comfort Main Panel inputs and outputs on a set of
krone blocks
2 terminate all of the incoming wires on a set of krone blocks - ie
PIR, Magnetic contacts etc
3. Patch between the 2 sets of Krone Blocks

Regards
Ben

On 30 May 2008, at 11:11, Mike Griffiths wrote:

> Also Ben I would really consider bringing all the inputs and outputs
> and
> control out to a Set of 10 Krone blocks - you can get krone blocks
> that
> are all connected so this makes KA / KB control and the 0 v and 12 v
> easily distributable and having all the ins and outs on krones make
> adding to the system very easy, it also aides fault finding and
> shutting
> off the siren when working on the system ;-)
> It can get very tight inside the unit to add cables at a later date
> especially if you follow the recommendation to use screened cable for
> the control to the keypads and slaves
> Personally I would never recommend a LEM 03 unless you know the system
> would never expand.
> The slaves really come into their own if you have a separate area
> like a
> garage - Comfort works a treat for automating lights and garage doors
> and is far more secure than using C-bus - one screened cat 5 and you
> can
> do all sorts of clever things in the garage with a slave unit
>
> Hope this helps
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Ben McCormack
> Sent: 30 May 2008 10:31
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Comfort Design Question
>
> Paul
>
> I really need more inputs rather than outputs.
>
> So I would like to use the 16 input board (LEM03) but from what I can
> see when I use that board I cannot add any slave expansion boards at a
> later date.
>
> Ben
>
> On 30 May 2008, at 10:21, Paul Gordon wrote:
>
> > Hi Ben.
> >
> > You may well be able to fit all that in a single panel, - but it
> will
> > possibly be a squeeze, depending how you plan/arrange it.
> >
> > Many of the modules can be "stacked" on top of each
other in the
> same
> > mounting position within the case by using long standoff pillars,
> this
> > helps a lot, but can also be a hindrance in terms of access to
> > obscured
> > terminals, so it's certainly worthwhile thinking about what
boards
> > you're likely to need access to after fitting.
> >
> > I'll try to take a picture of the layout of my panel tomorrow,
but
> > from
> > memory I have the following all within the main panel:
> >
> > Ultra II mainboard
> > LEM01-G2 local expansion module
> > ADM01 Aux distribution module
> > LSM01 Light sensor module
> > UCM05
> > Ringer module
> > RLY01 Relay board (4 relays)
> > Battery
> >
> > If you want the zone expansion, you can either use a SEM (slave
> > expansion) or a LEM (Local expansion) module. The design of the
> LEM is
> > such that it mounts on top of the mainboard & connects via a
ribbon
> > cable. The Ringer module also mounts on top of the mainboard.
> >
> > A SEP is a complete additional panel with another power supply,
> > another
> > "mainboard" - but not a full comfort mainboard
obviously, - it's a
> cut
> > down version; - a SEM, which is designed to be mounted remotely
from
> > the
> > main panel, and connects back to it via a standard alarm cable (I
> > believe)... I don't have any form of Slave expansion in my
system,
> > so I
> > may be a little off in my understanding of how the slaves work,
> > because
> > as you say, it is a little confusing!
> >
> > With both LEM's & SEM's beware that I believe there are
several
> > flavours
> > of each, - AIUI all of them have 16 "ports" - but some
of them are
> > split
> > as 8 inputs & 8 outputs, whereas others are all 16 inputs. -
If you
> > have
> > no requirement for additional output ports, them maybe you'd
> prefer to
> > opt for the 16 input versions which would give you 24 inputs
& 8
> > outputs...
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > Paul G.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ben McCormack
> > Sent: 29 May 2008 20:55
> > To: UKHA Group
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Comfort Design Question
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I am just about to place an order for my Comfort system.
> >
> > The plan is to install Comfort in a central location and run all
> > wiring back to this point and I am looking to purchase the
following
> >
> > Comfort Gen 2 Untra II Panel
> > Backup Battery
> > KP04 Main Keypad
> > Door Phone
> > Phone Protection Board
> > CBUS Interface
> > Ethernet Module - UCM01/ETH
> >
> > Now what is not obvious to me is how all the part physically fit
> > together. Can all the above be located in the Main Panel?
> >
> > Now thinking about zones
> >
> > Initially I will need about 10 zones but this may increase over
time
> > if I put magnetic sensors on each window. So I will need to add
> extra
> > zones.
> >
> > So what is the best way of doing this.
> >
> > Do I go for a Slave Expansion Panel? Or Unibox?
> >
> > I am confused about this, can anyone help?
> >
> > Regards
> > Ben
> >
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