Re: CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem

["Martin McCreesh" <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Paul,

I agree eventhough I use CBUS extensively - for our hotpress I  used a
chea=
p pir sensor from a broken outdoor light (~< =A310) and two door
switches -=
opening door puts power to pir which puts on the light for the specified t=
ime - light goes out immediately if both doors close. If door left open
lig=
ht stays on for 2 minutes if somebody walks up to open door the pir comes
o=
n again putting on the light for 2 minutes. Beats an =A380 coupler and a
re=
lay slot.

Martin.




----- Original Message -----=20
From: Paul Gordon=20
To: UKHA Group=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem


I know I should probably hung as a heretic for saying this but...

Wouldn't it have been massively simpler & cheaper to use a dedicated
plun=
ger switch of the type designed for *exactly* this purpose?... - I have
thi=
s arrangement on my "pantry" door in the kitchen (despite there
being a CBU=
S panel in that very room). The switch cost almost nothing, - =A32 or =A33
=
IIRC, when the door is open the light is on, when the door is closed the
li=
ght is off. Simple, reliable, cheap. With CBUS costing something in the
ord=
er of =A3100/channel it seemed absurd to me to use it for such a
"noddy" ap=
plication where the fact of it being CBUS added no extra functionality or
u=
seability over & above that provided by a simple mechanical switch. -
Just =
IMHO of course!

Take a look around any Ikea or MFI or the like these days, and all the wa=
rdrobes they sell have this arrangement as an option...

I *am* a big CBUS fan by the way!

Paul G.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Andrew Walker
> Sent: 22 July 2008 11:31
> To: UKHA Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> Thanks Martin, sounds good.
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> Its amazing how something as simple as controlling lights with a door
> switch can get you so excited, can't wait to get home and try it.
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> Hate to think how I'll be when I get my Home Vision up and running and
> CBUS/Sonos integration, oooh, aarrr.
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> SWMBO simply thinks its nice, so difficult to please !!!
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Martin McCreesh
> Sent: 22 July 2008 11:20
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> If you are using the on\off(toggle) function on the button you could
be
> getting switch bounce ie. your door contact bounces the switch onand
> off
> before quite making the final contact - try adjusting bounce settings
> in the global parameters advanced dialong in toolkit.
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> As to doing what you want with the light timing out I think you'll
need
> a custom key config.
> In the channel functions (advanced) dialog set up your own key
> functions
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> Short press - ramp recall 1 - set recall 1 to 100% in blocks
> section- this will slowly ramp the light on when contact is first made
> Short release - off - if door closes - light off
> immediately
> Long press - retirgger timer - set timer time and trigger function as
> off in the blocks section Long release - off
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> If you are confused with this email me directly will send a screen
shot
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> I havent tested this but it might work!!!
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> So door opens making contact - short press fires which is ramp lights
> on
> - long press fires if door remains open so a timer is set for 2
minutes
> to turn light off At any time if door closed the contact is opened so
> long or short release is fired turning off light,
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> Let us know if it works,
> Martin
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Phil Harris
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CBUS Bus Coupler and light programming problem
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> You need to set the button action on the bus coupler to be a bell
> press
> rather than a toggle however if the momentary switches that you are
> using
> on the doors are "make" when the door is closed and
"break" when the
> door
> is open then you may find that the action is the wrong way round and
> the
> light only comes on when the doors are closed...
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> Phil
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> > I've put this on the CBUS forums but not much response so can I
ask
> > you guys.
> >
> > I have connected a bus coupler to a micro switch on a bedroom
> wardrobe
> > door and paralleld the connections to another micro-switch on the
> 2nd
> > door. I have set the contacts so that opening the door makes the
> circuit.
> >
> > I would like opening the door to control the under cabinet
lighting
> I
> > have put in the wardrobe.
> >
> > I have had a play with the toolkit but can not get the operation
> > exactly how I would like.
> >
> > It seems to me that a single toggle operation is a complete
> sequence
> > of the contacts closing and then opening again. This makes the
> light
> > come on when the door is opened, however it stays on when the
door
> is
> > closed but then opening it again is a 2nd toggle which makes it
go
> off
> > which is completely wrong.
> >
> > I can't figure out the correct toolkit settings. I guess that a
> short
> > button press is not an issue with a bus coupler.
> >
> > My ideal operation would be door opening triggers lights to ramp
on
> > over 4 seconds and a timer which turns them off after 2 mins if
the
> > door is left open. Also, the door closing turns them off
> immediately.
> >
> > Can this be done with a bus-coupler, I don't have a PAC?
> >
> >
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