Re: Country bumpkin seeks fast internet connection

[Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Line attenuation (length + losses) causes low signal to noise ratio so
the two are directly entwined.    Basically the attenuation reduces the
signal and the length of the line increases noise so the ratio gets worse.

K

Wayne wrote:
>
> Hiya,
> As a quicky question, whats the better combination, a higher SNR or
Line
> Attenuation? (or combinations there of) and what would be 'ideal' for
> these numbers?
>
> Cheers
> Wayne.
>
> Simon Coates wrote:
> > Geoff,
> >
> > We're right on the end of the exchange - about 4 miles distance.
> Line attenuation is 60dB and SNR is 10 to 12dB.
> > So I suppose I'm lucky to get anything. Before the exchange
forced
> to speed it used to regulary drop to around 30k !!!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Simon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Geoff H
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: 11 April 2008 09:35
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Country bumpkin seeks fast internet
connection
> >
> >
> > Poor line speeds are not just the preserve of people living in
the
> > countryside.
> >
> > My mother lives in the middle of a suburb and can only achieve a
1Mb
> > connection.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> > Simon Coates wrote:
> > > If you can get 1M then you're lucky - best I can get is 450k
and
> that's with a forced connection by special arrangement with the
exchange.
> > > If you get satellite then expect really bad ping.
> > > You might get BT's 21CN sooner than you think.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Another country bumpkin.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: biggles299
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: 10 April 2008 21:03
> > > Subject: [ukha_d] Country bumpkin seeks fast internet
connection
> > >
> > >
> > > OI lives out in the country and have right proper problems
getting
> fast internet connection.
> > >
> > > The best I can get from the exchange is 1Mb on a good day.
Seems
> someone thought
> > > baleing twine would be better than copper or fibre. The
exchange
> is allegedly 8MB enabled
> > > (no LLU) but because it is almost 2miles from the village
centre I
> have yet to see better than
> > > 4Mb anywhere. We are a further mile outside the village
hence our
> lousy connection.
> > > We don't have mains gas or sewerage so the chances of cable
> reaching us sometime before
> > > the next millenium are pretty slim
> > >
> > > My question is can anybody comment on what the TRUE
performance of
> Satellite internet
> > > connection is, not just download speed for large files but
> latency, ping times etc. Does it still
> > > require a phone line or broadband connection.
> > > Is there a hybrid system that uses both broadband and
Satellite to
> give you good response
> > > for smaller file stuff but a good download speed when you
want it?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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