Re: Re: Storage subsystem for HA server

[Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

yes, noise is an issue ... but the errata issued later put the Xserve
as
much the same as the others, and offered ways of reducing it
significantly ... 'though it would still have to go in the basement !

Chris



Andy Davies wrote:

>Didn't include the software but that's really only a cost if someone
wants
>to run Windows on it as opposed to a linux varient (I know some cost),
don't
>think the cost of a remote management board is included with the Dell
(can't
>remember if it's in the xserve cost)
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>Problem I see it is they're both solving the wrong problems for the
home
>market, what we generally need is oodles of storage rather than CPU
>horsepower and 1U servers generally have limited storage unless you
hang
>other storage devices off them.
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>1U servers are also generally very noisy - found the links you'd posted
>before and I thing they quote 60dB for the Xserver
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>Overall I'd agree that the costs aren't that far out of line with each
>other, just that for me with pennies tight at the moment there are
different
>ways I'd spend my cash (I've got a pentium m based server built out of
bits
>off ebay and the parts box)
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>Andy
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>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>the two & bit includes VAT, of course ...
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>>anyway ... there's more to it, maybe, than headline hardware spec'
&
>>price  ... 'thought these useful :
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/10/xserve_xeon_rev.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/10/xserve_xeon_rev_1.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/11/xserve_review_p.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/11/apple_xserve_th.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>Chris
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>>Andy Davies wrote:
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>>>Two and a bit grand for an 80Gb server seems a bit on the steep
side to
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>>me
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>>>(had a quick fiddle on the Dell site and came up with a dual
3Ghz Xeon
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>>with
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>>>80 gig for under a grand ex VAT)...
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>>>Advantage I see of a PC server is it gives you the opportunity
to get
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>>there
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>>>in stages (I guess it's also a disadvantage as you can fiddle
to your
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>>hearts
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>>>content too)
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>>>Of course if you want to run OS X Server there's not a lot of
choice!
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>>>Andy
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>>>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>Aye, that's what I thought ... until I actually costed a PC
server, with
>>>>all the bits ... now I'm not so sure ...
>>>>
>>>>Chris
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>>>>Andy Davies wrote:
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>>>>>It's a nice idea (and the xserve's are a beautful bit
of kit) but I'm
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>>not
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>>>>>sure I could justify the price...
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>>>>>Andy
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>>>>>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
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>>>>>>This talk of servers & RAIDs makes me wonder if
anyone is running 'XP
>>>>>>through Parallels on an Xserve ... 'ought to be
good, and
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>>>>>seems to suggest it would work ... even has RS-232,
VGA, and PCI-X, as
>>>>>>well as all the more modern stuff !
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>>>>>>Chris
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