Re: Re: Storage subsystem for HA server

[Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

... and the Xserve has double processors, etc ...

anyway ... we're looking to buy both a Windows machine & a new desktop
'Mac, and Xserve with Parallels seems to be an alternative option ...

plus going the PC route seems to be a recipe for getting sucked-in to
lots of unplanned costs over time ... which we've found  tends not to be
the case with Apple ...

'more homework to do !

Chris



Andy Davies wrote:

>Didn't include the software but that's really only a cost if someone
wants
>to run Windows on it as opposed to a linux varient (I know some cost),
don't
>think the cost of a remote management board is included with the Dell
(can't
>remember if it's in the xserve cost)
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>Problem I see it is they're both solving the wrong problems for the
home
>market, what we generally need is oodles of storage rather than CPU
>horsepower and 1U servers generally have limited storage unless you
hang
>other storage devices off them.
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>1U servers are also generally very noisy - found the links you'd posted
>before and I thing they quote 60dB for the Xserver
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>Overall I'd agree that the costs aren't that far out of line with each
>other, just that for me with pennies tight at the moment there are
different
>ways I'd spend my cash (I've got a pentium m based server built out of
bits
>off ebay and the parts box)
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>Andy
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>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>the two & bit includes VAT, of course ...
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>>anyway ... there's more to it, maybe, than headline hardware spec'
&
>>price  ... 'thought these useful :
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/10/xserve_xeon_rev.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/10/xserve_xeon_rev_1.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/11/xserve_review_p.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/11/apple_xserve_th.html
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>Chris
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>>Andy Davies wrote:
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>>>Two and a bit grand for an 80Gb server seems a bit on the steep
side to
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>>me
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>>>(had a quick fiddle on the Dell site and came up with a dual
3Ghz Xeon
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>>with
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>>>80 gig for under a grand ex VAT)...
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>>>Advantage I see of a PC server is it gives you the opportunity
to get
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>>there
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>>>in stages (I guess it's also a disadvantage as you can fiddle
to your
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>>hearts
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>>>content too)
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>>>Of course if you want to run OS X Server there's not a lot of
choice!
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>>>Andy
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>>>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>>Aye, that's what I thought ... until I actually costed a PC
server, with
>>>>all the bits ... now I'm not so sure ...
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>>>>Chris
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>>>>Andy Davies wrote:
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>>>>>It's a nice idea (and the xserve's are a beautful bit
of kit) but I'm
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>>not
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>>>>>sure I could justify the price...
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>>>>>Andy
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>>>>>On 03/02/07, Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
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>>>>>>This talk of servers & RAIDs makes me wonder if
anyone is running 'XP
>>>>>>through Parallels on an Xserve ... 'ought to be
good, and
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>>http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/kill_two_window.html
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>>>>>>seems to suggest it would work ... even has RS-232,
VGA, and PCI-X, as
>>>>>>well as all the more modern stuff !
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>>>>>>Chris
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