Re: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

["John Nye" <lists@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Brian - will follow it up.

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Milton" <bmilton@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:04 AM
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?




Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:50:59 -0000
From: "John Nye" <lists@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Found a link here http://www.michiganwireless.org/tools/Netstumbler/
Also found a forum that said ver 0.4.0 should work but can be a bit
unstable
they recommend running it for a while to see if it runs ok. But sure you
might as well use ver 0.3.30 since its avaible.
http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=13106

Download: http://tinyurl.com/5coq2
Forum: http://tinyurl.com/3m76v

Hope it helps

Brian

........................................................
Anyone got version 0.3.30 of netstumbler hanging around?
Cannot find it anywhere on the net.

Unfortunatly the latest version not compatible with my aged, ME Laptop -:(

John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Noble" <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Multiple Wireless AP working together?


>
> John Nye wrote:
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> > I'll have a stroll around the house with the lappy. I think I'll
need
> > to put
> > something on it first though to tell which AP I'm picking up.
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>
> Try netstumbler, or something like that.
>
> Jim
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:59:39 -0000
From: "bensbarn2001" <ben.wilkinson@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Backing Up MP3's to DDS4


Rob,

Not sure what backup software you're running, but if you're running
an incremental backup, it should only pick up files which have
changed since last backup, in which case you'd be fine if all you've
done is play a file.

The other thing you could do is just leave the drive waiting to
insert another tape for a day or two (I'm not sure why you want to
span it over a few days).

Ben

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Rob Mouser" <groups@m...> wrote:
> I have a DDS4 drive in my server and would like to run a routing
to back up
> my MP3's. The MP3 collection is around 55gb.
>
> I realise I can easily run multiple tapes to back up parts of the
alphabet
> but what I would really like to do is have some way that I could
get it to
> intelligently back up the entire database in chunks over a few
days. I
> realise I could use append but I would end up with extra backups
of MP3's
> played since the last backup, I think? Or would the file have to
physically
> change to be picked up by an appended backup?
>
> Not sure I have explained myself that well, but any comments
appreciated?
>
>
>
> Rob
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:43:27 -0000
From: "Phil Harris" <phil@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Plasma or LCD TV recommendation / advice


I have the 32" version of the Sharp - the 32GA4E (so mine has the
speakers
at the sides). It has a native panel resolution of 1366 x 768 pixels and I
just got my three year warranty paperwork through. Be aware that the three
year warranty was a limited time offer which has now expired and it's the
normal 12 months warranty now (anyway - the GA3/GA4 series LCDs are rare as
rocking horse sh*t now). I paid £1379 for it.

LOOKS FECKING STUNNING DRIVEN BY THE HTPC!!!!

Phil

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> From: Simon Ryley [mailto:simon.ryley@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: 24 January 2005 09:23
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Plasma or LCD TV recommendation / advice
>
>
> I have the Sharp Aquos 28inch LCD.  Ok, its not 42 inch, but
> it is a great unit, very bright and clear, with an RS232
> inteface as well.  If the bigger LCD sizes had been cheaper I
> would have gone bigger, but for now, its great.
>
> Comes with a three year warranty as well, so I would
> recommend Sharp as a brand.  Plus the speakers are at the
> bottom, not the side, so it looks a lot better too.
>
> Simon
>
>
> Phil Harris wrote:
>
> >
> > > > ...LCD's are available up to 45" (OK - at a price)
and the
> > > 45" Sharp
> > > > LCD is 1920 x 1080 resolution.
> > >
> > > Yeah, but unfortunatly the bright sparks in the states
> made the 1080
> > > mode interlaced, so you are back where we are with analog TV
in
> > > having to suffer dodgey de-interlacing artifacts on any
digital
> > > display panel.
> >
> > That's only interlaced on Hi-Def broadcasts though ... It's not
> > interlaced if you're running 1920 x 1080 from a PC.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 11:56:36 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: HA enabled FISH TANK owners?

Paul Gordon wrote:

> I use a little APC backUPS desktop unit hidden away in the cupboard
that
> the tank sits on. Not really sure how long the max. runtime it will
give
> is, since we've never had an outage of more than a few minutes, -
> usually whilst work was being done that necessitated tripping the
> circuit breaker. Our grid supply is pretty reliable, in fact I don't
> think I can recall ever having a grid power outage in the 9 odd years
> I've lived here...
>
> As for power consumption, there I have absolutely no idea! - I can't
> imagine its very much though...

Saying that is just asking for a 6 hr cut

I have had issues with powerheads burning out when running on inverter
power

before, ended up with them so they wouldnt start reliably unless I gave
them
a
thump. Im assuming one of the coils burned out.

I am thinking of running some 2.5mm cable to each aquaruim location back to
a
cental location and getting a big 3kva ups for it sometime...


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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:04:15 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Tony Butler wrote:

>>I have this setup with two Linksys WRT54GS units.
>
>
> Do you know if it's possible with the linksys and another make - I
have
the
> above, plus a draytek router with wireless 802.11g and I would like to
use
> the wireless side also to increase coverage in the house.
> Do they need to sit on different channels, or can they be both on the
same
> channel but with some sort of funky setup to get them to work
together?

Possibly, but as far as im aware the linksys with the sveasoft firmware is
the
only that will do spanning tree with bridging, the others requre you make
sure
that you dont set up any circular bridging so you may run into issues if
you
get
more then 1 hanging off the AP in the draytek, and thats if it even works
at
all.

WDS is only standardised as far as the actual transmitted frames, the
attaching
to another AP to set the link up is not, that is why you have to put a
remote
bridge mac address in on most accesspoints. Sveasofts firmware has an
easywds
that seems to set some of it up for you, but I have not tried that as I
only

have one wrt54gs accesspoint, and its being used at the moment.




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:06:25 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Mark McCall wrote:

> "Wireless Distribution System (WDS) allows you to make a
completely
wireless
> infrastructure. Normally, the access points must be connected with a
wire
> (LAN). These access points create cells allowing a wireless
connection.
The
> WDS feature allows the access points to be wirelessly connected. This
> feature is normally used in large, open areas where pulling a wire is
> restricted or not cost effective and in residential circumstances.
>
> In a setup where there no wireless router, only a WAP, is only the
first
one
> connected to the wired side of the LAN?  Or can I have them all on the
wired
> LAN and still use the WDS feature?

WDS establishes another connection between the accesspoints that allow them
to
send to each other, independent of the accesspoint function. If you have
cat5 in
all locations, just set the aps up with the same ssid and keys and you
should be
rocking, if they are connected by cable then you want to use different
channels
so activity on one AP doesnt slow down the others.


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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:09:29 +1300
From: Richard Malcolm-Smith <rich@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

> Actually I meant if both cover the middle ground adequately, and you
> have the same SSID, channel etc, you could end up with a bit of a
clash
> at the point where the signal strengths are similar...?

It will associate with one or the other and be fine, it will usually hang
on
to
one ap till the signal from it gets too bad, then re-associate with the
better
one. There is no controlled handoff like there is on mobile phone systems
where
the second one will see the device and arrange it to move. There will be
interuption to connectivity while the mobile PC changes accesspoints, but
as

long as they are connected to the same ethernet segment then windows seems
to be
able to keep tcp sessions open across APs



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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:48:39 -0000
From: "Stuart Worrall" <stuart@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Combi Boiler and Smartfit

Make that another.  Im in Connah's Quay

Stu

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kaye [mailto:mark.kaye@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 24 January 2005 12:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Combi Boiler and Smartfit

John Nye wrote:
> So another HA'er in North Wales! I wonder where?

:)  Just outside of Cynwyd, Corwen.  You?





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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:54:44 +0000
From: Jim Noble <yahoo-groups@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Multiple Wireless AP working together?

Richard Malcolm-Smith wrote:

> > Actually I meant if both cover the middle ground adequately, and
you
> > have the same SSID, channel etc, you could end up with a bit of a
clash
> > at the point where the signal strengths are similar...?
>
> It will associate with one or the other and be fine, it will usually
> hang on to
> one ap till the signal from it gets too bad, then re-associate with
> the better
> one. There is no controlled handoff like there is on mobile phone
> systems where
> the second one will see the device and arrange it to move. There will
be
> interuption to connectivity while the mobile PC changes accesspoints,
> but as
> long as they are connected to the same ethernet segment then windows
> seems to be
> able to keep tcp sessions open across APs


Yup, but as you say elsewhere - different channels!

Jim


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