Re: Query on Rating

["Frank Mc Alinden" <armagh@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Des

> Does the pink stuff have each individual wire insulation rated at
mains
> voltage, I doubt it, which means even if using it, you will still have
LV
> rated wires in the consumer unit, even if only a few cm's of each.
Which
> sort of negates the point of using it at all?

Doesnt look like it to me......It looks just like normal cat5 cable to me
...Im assuming the outer sheath is rated at 240v.....You wouldnt need to
strip the cat5 inside the consumer unit as it just plugs in to a rj45
socket
on the C_Bus dimmer module ..Theres 2 rj45 sockets on each module for
looping in and out to next module....

> Did you get any of the pink cat5 yet? Any idea on cost? My Parents
might
> have a heavy suitcase next time they come back from NZ, lol.

No i havnt bought any ..i think its almost twice the price of standard cat5
stuff..only advantage  i see is you can easily spot the C-bus network cable
if fault finding.........

LOL.... just imagine the bags being scanned at customs........When i came
out here back in 1977 my suitcase was full up with components and boxes im
surprized i made it to Heathrow airport....

Frank





----- Original Message -----
From: "Des Gibbons" <des@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Query on Rating


>
>
>
> >
> > Hi Des
> >             Below a copy from a previous post by Alanc
>
> Thanks for that Frank, it was that thread that put it in my head, but
I
> still think Alanccs' suggestion is against the regs. (Even though it
sounds
> perfectly acceptable to me!)( That is how it is done in industrial
control
> panels after all)
>
> Does the pink stuff have each individual wire insulation rated at
mains
> voltage, I doubt it, which means even if using it, you will still have
LV
> rated wires in the consumer unit, even if only a few cm's of each.
Which
> sort of negates the point of using it at all?
>
> Did you get any of the pink cat5 yet? Any idea on cost? My Parents
might
> have a heavy suitcase next time they come back from NZ, lol.
>
> Cheers, Des.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<armagh@b...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes you can but just reading the clipsal tech notes
there is an
> > > issue (in
> > > > aussie at least) were the cat5 would have to have the
same rating
> > > as the
> > > > other mains cable in the consumer unit hence the
clipsal pink cat5
> > > is heavy
> > > > duty and mains rated................as i understand it
> > >
> > > This is also the case within the UK.  You cannot run cables
adjacent
> > > to mains wiring (in the same conduit or enclosure) unless
the
> > > insulation is adequate for the higher volage.  Thus you need
cat5
> > > with insulation rated for 250VAC, which is probably next to
impossble
> > > to find.
> > >
> > > What I do is to put a junction box outside the enclosure
where I
> > > terminate the cat5,and come out using 0.5mm single core
switchgear
> > > cable, twisted, wchich is adequately rated, and run that ino
the main
> > > senclosure.
> > >
> > > You can also ut the junction box inside the enclosure; I've
used the
> > > smallest of the universal boxes from TLC, and used a bush so
that
> > > there is a route in trough both boxes.
> >
> > Why not just run the Cat5 cables away from the mains ones inside
the
> > consumer unit, this is no different to running mains and alarm
> > cables inside
> > your alarm panel, there are loads of situations where this is
> > done you just
> > keep them away from each other. If you really want to add
> > insulation, strip
> > the sheath from some mains rated cable and slip over the Cat5, it
seems
a
> > lot easier than putting in JBs.
> >
> > Alancc
>
>
>
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