ALARM MONITORING COMPANIES WAS Re: Major panic last night

["John Andrews" <groups@xxxxxxx>]

Can anyone recommend a good alarm monitoring company?

My alarm rings me and allows me to listen in, then if I am near a PC I can
watch on the cctv system. Obviously I can not always do that so a
monitoring
company would be good.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Major panic last night


> Hi Paul
>
> >The kitchen PIR is not enabled in away mode as the >dog lives
there. Not
sure if it would show up after >another sensor has triggered (probably
would).
>
> If its not enabled it should not generate an alarm..It might though
show
up on the log as *Unsealing* (sensing movement)which is entirely different
>from
>
> I tend to agree with Ian,s Comment regarding the Police..Im sure they
must
be sick of attending False alarms...There are lots of Monitoring companies
who for a nominal fee will monitor your alarm system and
> send a patrol service to attend alarms if necessary..Its just a case
of
picking the right alarm company and its not necessarily the big names
either.......
>
> Frank
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Paul
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:06 AM
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Major panic last night
>
>
>   Both sensors are PIR's (good ones at that). The kitchen PIR is not
enabled in away mode as the dog lives there. Not sure if it would show up
after another sensor has triggered (probably would). Could be that the hall
PIR just went off as false alarm and the dog moved around as the keypads
started announcing an entry alert. If so, the hall sensor was the only one
to trigger as a false alarm (if that makes sense).
>
>   Paul.
>
>
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Kevin Hawkins [mailto:lists@xxxxxxx]
>   Sent: 27 June 2003 13:07
>   To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>   Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Major panic last night
>
>
>
>   Just wondering Paul what type of sensor you have in the kitchen -
where
the
>   dog was, and what would happen at the house when the alarm went off
??
>   Sirens ?
>   Is it possible you got one false alarm in the hall and when the
alarm
>   sounded the dog went frantic and caused a second trip in the kitchen
?
Dual
>   trips are always very worrying - if the trips had occurred
instantaneously
>   on Comfort I might have thought it could be a hardware issue but
separated
>   this is highly unlikely.
>   If this did persist a good second opinion can be had by using some
>   separately wired PIR's into say HV and checking to see if any of
those
had
>   tripped as well - this is sort of what the 'new' alarm policing
requirements
>   mandate - that you have two separate technologies (not two PIR's)
that
can
>   confirm an intruder - eg break glass and PIR or break beam and
microwave. I
>   don't know if PIR and microwave count - I know they don't if they
both
>   originate from the same sensor as in dual tech's.
>   Dual technology PIR's have improved my false alarms no end -
basically
the
>   units have a microwave and standard PIR in one housing - both
technologies
>   are required to 'trip' before the sensor creates an alarm condition.
They
>   are more expensive than the standard PIR's but not overly so. I
replaced
all
>   my PIR's with these, it eliminated all my thermal creep issues - eg
in
my
>   cast iron long radiators which got hot from one end to the other and
(I
>   think) were causing false activations.
>
>         Kevin
>
>
>
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