Re: Major panic last night

["Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Paul

>The kitchen PIR is not enabled in away mode as the >dog lives there.
Not sure if it would show up after >another sensor has triggered
(probably would).

If its not enabled it should not generate an alarm..It might though show up
on the log as *Unsealing* (sensing movement)which is entirely different
from an alarm.......

I tend to agree with Ian,s Comment regarding the Police..Im sure they must
be sick of attending False alarms...There are lots of Monitoring companies
who for a nominal fee will monitor your alarm system and
send a patrol service to attend alarms if necessary..Its just a case of
picking the right alarm company and its not necessarily the big names
either.......

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 12:06 AM
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Major panic last night


Both sensors are PIR's (good ones at that). The kitchen PIR is not enabled
in away mode as the dog lives there. Not sure if it would show up after
another sensor has triggered (probably would). Could be that the hall PIR
just went off as false alarm and the dog moved around as the keypads
started announcing an entry alert. If so, the hall sensor was the only one
to trigger as a false alarm (if that makes sense).

Paul.



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Hawkins [mailto:lists@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 27 June 2003 13:07
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Major panic last night



Just wondering Paul what type of sensor you have in the kitchen - where the
dog was, and what would happen at the house when the alarm went off ??
Sirens ?
Is it possible you got one false alarm in the hall and when the alarm
sounded the dog went frantic and caused a second trip in the kitchen ? Dual
trips are always very worrying - if the trips had occurred instantaneously
on Comfort I might have thought it could be a hardware issue but separated
this is highly unlikely.
If this did persist a good second opinion can be had by using some
separately wired PIR's into say HV and checking to see if any of those had
tripped as well - this is sort of what the 'new' alarm policing
requirements
mandate - that you have two separate technologies (not two PIR's) that can
confirm an intruder - eg break glass and PIR or break beam and microwave. I
don't know if PIR and microwave count - I know they don't if they both
originate from the same sensor as in dual tech's.
Dual technology PIR's have improved my false alarms no end - basically the
units have a microwave and standard PIR in one housing - both technologies
are required to 'trip' before the sensor creates an alarm condition. They
are more expensive than the standard PIR's but not overly so. I replaced
all
my PIR's with these, it eliminated all my thermal creep issues - eg in my
cast iron long radiators which got hot from one end to the other and (I
think) were causing false activations.

Kevin




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