Re: VU1 ESL bulbs with HA dimmers?

[jdsafe_at_hotmail_dot_com@xxxxxxx (aloe65)]

aloe65 had written this in response to
http://forums.cabling-design.com/homeautomation/Re-VU1-ESL-bulbs-with-HA-dimmers-18576-.htm
 :
PSPM is the superior bulb, not just in price but in overall quality.  VU1
hasn't produced anything close to the PSPM bulb.  On the contrary, it
sounds like you are nervous about the PSPM product hitting the market and
drowning out ESL technology.

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ginchinchili wrote:

> ginchinchili had written this in response to
>
http://forums.cabling-design.com/homeautomation/Re-VU1-ESL-bulbs-with-HA-dimmers-18555-.htm
>  :
> aloe65, I've seen this exact same post in a few different places, all
> of
> them on threads commenting about Vu1. Sounds like SPAM to me, or are
> you
> just feeling as if Vu1 is a threat to your PureSpectrum investment?

> Not only is this spaming, but you're not telling the truth, i.e.,
> you're
> misleading people. PureSpectrum's bulbs are not fully dimmable, and I
> know
> you know that. They dim down to about 10%, then flicker off, which is
> about the same as most dimmable CFLs. I've seen 3 different videos of
> PureSpectrum's bulbs being dimmed and each one cuts off the camera just
> before they are finished dimming. And I should point out that Vu1's
> bulbs
> ARE FULLY dimmable, just like an incandescent.

> Furthermore, you can't validate any sales by Vu1 and yet you'd have
> these
> people believing that people are "buying them up in droves."
> That's simply
> not true. Right now you couldn't produce one bit of evidence that
> verifies
> that PureSpectrum has any sales, except for a press release put out by
> a
> company run by a man, Tony Golden, who owns 20 million shares of
> PureSpectrum. But you can't produce anything verifiable.

> Also, according to the S-4 they filed w/the SEC on Sept 3, they haven't
> completed developing the prototype for their ballasts, much less
> selling
> them. Nor do they have any funding and they're burning through money.
> This
> company's in bad shape and you're freaking out because the stock's been
> dropping and you're losing money.

> If you're going to SPAM, at least stick with the truth.

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> aloe65 wrote:

>> aloe65 had written this in response to
>>
>>
http://forums.cabling-design.com/homeautomation/VU1-ESL-bulbs-with-HA-dimmers-18550-.htm
>>  :
>> Pure Spectrum has now patented a CFL build that is fully
>> dimmable(no
>> flicker or dying out), instant on, cold to the touch, highest
>> power
>> factor(.96), and the energy usage is proportional to the dimming
>> level,
>> the light output is that of an incandescent and the price will be
>> in
>> the
>> $4-$6 range. This is the answer to the NEW CFL!

>> The have numerous patents and are manufacturing and filling orders
>> now
>> worldwide. Utility companies are buying them up in the droves for
>> their
>> free distribution program. The utility companies love them because
>> it
>> costs them less to deliver the power to these bulbs due to the
>> extremely
>> High Power Factor. ...which means the utility companies charge you
>> less!

>> The also have a dimmable ballast for linear fluorescents(yes, you
>> will
>> be
>> able to dim fluorescents), also at a fraction of the cost of
>> normal
>> ballast due to the fewer parts that they use in the ballast. This
>> will
>> be
>> huge, imagine a high rise office building in which the fluorescent
>> lights
>> dim with the amount of sunlight coming in,....daylight harvesting
>> at a
>> fraction of the cost...HUGE SAVINGS.

>> Hopefully the bulbs will be on Home Depot and Wal Mart shelves
>> soon.


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>> unfrostedpoptart wrote:




>>> I've just been reading about VU1's new ESL bulb technology
>>> (http://
>>> www.vu1.com).  Looks really good and seems to address a lot of
>>> the
>>> problems of CFL and LED. They specifically talk about (and
>>> show)
>>> that
>>> it dims smoothly on normal dimmers.  I was wondering if anyone
>>> knows
>>> how they would work with X10/Insteon/etc electronic dimmers
>>> and
>>> the
>>> infamous local-control problems.

>>> I've given up on adding any more HA gear until there's a good,
>>> inexpensive, high-efficiency, light bulb available that I can
>>> actually
>>> dim!

>>>  David










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