Re: HA Primer - Pos and cons of X-10, Z-wave, Insteon, UPB

[mmikem32 <pinzen@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 29, 3:19 pm, nob...@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote:
> mmikem32 <pin...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >On Apr 28, 10:34 am, nob...@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston) wrote:
> >> "Robert Green" <ROBERT_GREEN1...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> If the controller is centrally located, 4 hops in every direction
> >> >> can cover a home that is ~200 long by ~200 feet wide
>
> >> >That's nice if it's possible to centrally locate the controller.
>
> >> If you're the owner of this specious estate and want to walk around the
> >> perimeter of your network while using a handheld remote to control it,
> >> you'll find that you can only control 1/2 (or less) of the network from
> >> anywhere on the perimeter as signals fall off the edge of the earth af=
ter 4
> >> hops. =20
>
> >The device was a plugin device.  I have the homeseer z-troller so it
> >doesn't act as a hand held remote. but, I loaded homeseer on my
> >laptop, connected the z-troller up and walked around the house setting
> >off events. Every device worked from every location.  This took a bit
> >of time to make sure that the all devices were working from each place
> >I stopped.  Now...all devices may be working because I have so many
> >devices in the house now.  But they do work.  So I am not really on
> >board with all the negative talk about Z-wave.  It all has worked
> >flawless for me from day one.
>
> As I recall, you said your house was 2500 ft=B2 on two levels not the 40,=
000
> ft=B2 on one level that Bass claims 4 hops will cover. Your test doesn't
> address the issue in any way since no one has said 4 hops is inadequate w=
ith
> the distances involved in your house.
>
> Aside from mentioning the Lutron patent and the reference to the imaginary
> 40,000 ft=B2 house which you quoted, the only statement I made about Z-Wa=
ve
> was, "Z-Wave requires a minimal density of modules to assure coverage. Th=
is
> plus their 4 hops max limits the physical size of a network although one
> supplier now offers a system with 7 hops max." I don't see where that is
> either negative or inaccurate unless you're claiming that your 16 device
> system will work equally well in the imaginary 40,000 ft=B2 house.- Hide =
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A 40,000 ft=B2 house...Fine...Never claimed any about 16 devices working
in that size.  I was just asked about my setup and made the assertion
that Z-Wave was better than X-10 IMHO.  Thats it !