Re: Insteon Compatability with X-10

[nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Dave Houston)]

I'll let Bruce confirm this but I think you will plug the translator into an
outlet and then plug the Ademco transformer either into the "Always On"
outlet on the translator or into another nearby outlet.

The X-10 signals will reach the powerline. They won't be absorbed. But they
shouldn't pose any problems unless there happens to be an Insteon command
from another source on the powerline at the same time. If there is an
occasional collision, the Insteon transmitters will try again (up to 5
times?) so there should be no problem.

"gymfolks" <gymfolks@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Yes, I am building new and hope to avoid X-10 completely (except for my
>alarm panel - Ademco Vista 20P -.... I like it for other reasons).  Since
>the alarm panel transmits X-10 via a plug in transformer, is it correct to
>assume that I could plug that transformer DIRECTLY into the "X-10 to Insteon
>translator" (link below)   http://www.smarthomepro.com/2414x.html#cart
>
>...and have GREAT performance because X-10 is immediately converted to
>Insteon?
>
>Would there be any ill effects from X-10 signal (possibly passing through
>the translator)?  Or would the translator "absorb" all the X-10 signal and
>just send out Insteon (remember that single source of X-10 signal would be
>coming from the transformer that would be plugged directly into the Insteon
>translator).
>
>
>
>"BruceR" <br@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> You would use the X10 to Insteon Translator. It "hears" the X10 signal and
>> sends out the appropriate Insteon signal to activate an Insteon device
>> that's been registered tot the translator. I'm using it now to translate
>> from the Stargate Controller to Insteon.
>>
>> From:gymfolks
>> gymfolks@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>> Wow, great discussion on my other post.  THANKS you guys!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In reading over Insteon's white paper (please reference
>>> http://www.insteon.net/pdf/insteoncompared.pdf ) I am confused about
>>> how compatible Insteon really is with older X-10 items (it says
>>> Insteon devices can switch to X-10 mode) and how to "address the
>>> older X-10 to Insteon" devices
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The note below is from the white paper.
>>>
>>>  1.. At a minimum, X10 compatibility means that INSTEON and X10
>>> signals can coexist with each other on the powerline without mutual
>>> interference. INSTEON-only powerline devices do not retransmit or
>>> amplify X10 signals. But X10 compatibility also means that designers
>>> are free to create hybrid INSTEON/X10 devices that operate equally
>>> well in both environments. By purchasing such hybrid devices, current
>>> users of legacy X10 products can easily upgrade to INSTEON without
>>> making their X10 investment obsolete. I am NOT a present X-10 user (so my
>>> question may be a bit "dumb" -
>>> sorry)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is my question:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How would you set up the addressing so that a security panel (Ademco
>>> Vista 20) that could send out X-10 signals to the proper Insteon
>>> device?  I read/understood how Insteon devices "learn to recognize"
>>> each other, but with "X-10 signaling to Insteon", I am not sure how
>>> that would be set up.
>>
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