Re: grow up before it too late

[Chief <Chief@xxxxxx>]

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:17:15 -0500, G. Morgan <alarmpro@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
no

> Jake -- Is that you?
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:11:18 -0500, Chief <Chief@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Grow up Robert
>> By Steve Ryckman
>>
>> From: Steve Ryckman (sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
>> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Changes to alt.security.alarms
>>
>> Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms
>> Date: 1998/09/15
>>
>> [This follow-up was posted to alt.security.alarms and a copy was sent to
>> the
>> cited author.]
>>
>> In article RsoL1.94362$Xy6.22604521@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> alarmist@xxxxxxxx says..
>>
>> Up until this message I have usually honored requests by Steve Ryckman
>> such
>> as "thread closed" and "don't respond to this..."  However, this message
>> requires a public response.
>>
>> I would have expected no less from you Robert.
>>
>> It is true this is an "alt" group, along with tens of thousands other
>> groups.  Being an "alt" group does not mean the group is open to the
>> whim
>> of
>> anyone whose whim warrants it.
>>
>> You and I have had many conversations over the last couple of years and
>> I
>> can understand where you are coming from. I can also understand that you
>> are
>> the prime reason for many of the problems.  You may not provoke it
>> intentionally but the utter hatred for you that many in the group have
>> is
>> the reason I'm having to do this in the first place.
>>
>> I've tried to be patient with you, I've tried to explain the way things
>> should/could work but your goals are always ahead of the group in
>> general.
>>
>> Any newsgroup can take control of it's own destiny, there is no rule
>> that
>> says all alt groups must be total chaos.  The "big 8" were created
>> first,
>> then the .alt groups so there could be more laxx areas.  The "alt"
>> hierarchy
>> wasn't formed with the intent that all groups in it be totally out of
>> control.   At the time the alt hierarchy was created, spam was not a
>> problem
>> and most users of the newsgroups at all were people like myself who had
>> been
>> involved in it for many years who exhibited some restraint in our
>> on-line
>> activities on our own.
>>
>> Read the FAQ Robert.  You've hidden behind it yourself, you have used
>> it to
>> retaliate against those you felt should be "moderated" (do I have to
>> quote
>> some of your emails to me asking for others to be moderated), yet when
>> it
>> doesn't turn your way all of a sudden the whole concept is wrong. I am
>> not
>> the "moderator" of the group, no one is.  There is no official procedure
>> for
>> changing the FAQ of the group other than it is the responsibility of the
>> Group Host to maintain it as the FAQ states.
>> |
>> If you have suggestions for changes to the FAQ to be made, then by all
>> means
>> stop criticizing everyone else and make some useful suggestions. These
>> are
>> being run on a "trial" basis for one week as I stated.  If it doesn't
>> work
>> out then we'll change them.  Or if someone has a better idea before
>> that,
>> we
>> can change it.   These aren't set in stone, they are my suggestions for
>> improving the group.
>>
>> Grow up Robert and either participate nicely or go play somewhere else.
>> Steven M. Ryckman, ASA Group Host
>> Email: sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx



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