Re: grow up before it too late

[Chief <Chief@xxxxxx>]

On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:11:18 -0500, Chief <Chief@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Grow up Robert
> By Steve Ryckman
>
> From: Steve Ryckman (sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Changes to alt.security.alarms
>
> Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms
> Date: 1998/09/15
>
> [This follow-up was posted to alt.security.alarms and a copy was sent to
> the
> cited author.]
>
> In article RsoL1.94362$Xy6.22604521@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> alarmist@xxxxxxxx says..
>
> Up until this message I have usually honored requests by Steve Ryckman
> such
> as "thread closed" and "don't respond to this..."  However, this message
> requires a public response.
>
> I would have expected no less from you Robert.
>
> It is true this is an "alt" group, along with tens of thousands other
> groups.  Being an "alt" group does not mean the group is open to the
> whim of
> anyone whose whim warrants it.
>
> You and I have had many conversations over the last couple of years and I
> can understand where you are coming from. I can also understand that you
> are
> the prime reason for many of the problems.  You may not provoke it
> intentionally but the utter hatred for you that many in the group have is
> the reason I'm having to do this in the first place.
>
> I've tried to be patient with you, I've tried to explain the way things
> should/could work but your goals are always ahead of the group in
> general.
>
> Any newsgroup can take control of it's own destiny, there is no rule that
> says all alt groups must be total chaos.  The "big 8" were created first,
> then the .alt groups so there could be more laxx areas.  The "alt"
> hierarchy
> wasn't formed with the intent that all groups in it be totally out of
> control.   At the time the alt hierarchy was created, spam was not a
> problem
> and most users of the newsgroups at all were people like myself who had
> been
> involved in it for many years who exhibited some restraint in our on-line
> activities on our own.
>
> Read the FAQ Robert.  You've hidden behind it yourself, you have used it
> to
> retaliate against those you felt should be "moderated" (do I have to
> quote
> some of your emails to me asking for others to be moderated), yet when it
> doesn't turn your way all of a sudden the whole concept is wrong. I am
> not
> the "moderator" of the group, no one is.  There is no official procedure
> for
> changing the FAQ of the group other than it is the responsibility of the
> Group Host to maintain it as the FAQ states.
> |
> If you have suggestions for changes to the FAQ to be made, then by all
> means
> stop criticizing everyone else and make some useful suggestions. These
> are
> being run on a "trial" basis for one week as I stated.  If it doesn't
> work
> out then we'll change them.  Or if someone has a better idea before
> that, we
> can change it.   These aren't set in stone, they are my suggestions for
> improving the group.
>
> Grow up Robert and either participate nicely or go play somewhere else.
> Steven M. Ryckman, ASA Group Host
> Email: sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>



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