Re: grow up before it too late

[G. Morgan <alarmpro@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jake -- Is that you?



On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:11:18 -0500, Chief <Chief@xxxxxx> wrote:

>Grow up Robert
>By Steve Ryckman
>
>From: Steve Ryckman (sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
>Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Changes to alt.security.alarms
>
>Newsgroups: alt.security.alarms
>Date: 1998/09/15
>
>[This follow-up was posted to alt.security.alarms and a copy was sent to
>the
>cited author.]
>
>In article RsoL1.94362$Xy6.22604521@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>alarmist@xxxxxxxx says..
>
>Up until this message I have usually honored requests by Steve Ryckman such
>as "thread closed" and "don't respond to this..."  However, this message
>requires a public response.
>
>I would have expected no less from you Robert.
>
>It is true this is an "alt" group, along with tens of thousands other
>groups.  Being an "alt" group does not mean the group is open to the whim
>of
>anyone whose whim warrants it.
>
>You and I have had many conversations over the last couple of years and I
>can understand where you are coming from. I can also understand that you
>are
>the prime reason for many of the problems.  You may not provoke it
>intentionally but the utter hatred for you that many in the group have is
>the reason I'm having to do this in the first place.
>
>I've tried to be patient with you, I've tried to explain the way things
>should/could work but your goals are always ahead of the group in general.
>
>Any newsgroup can take control of it's own destiny, there is no rule that
>says all alt groups must be total chaos.  The "big 8" were created first,
>then the .alt groups so there could be more laxx areas.  The "alt"
>hierarchy
>wasn't formed with the intent that all groups in it be totally out of
>control.   At the time the alt hierarchy was created, spam was not a
>problem
>and most users of the newsgroups at all were people like myself who had
>been
>involved in it for many years who exhibited some restraint in our on-line
>activities on our own.
>
>Read the FAQ Robert.  You've hidden behind it yourself, you have used it to
>retaliate against those you felt should be "moderated" (do I have to quote
>some of your emails to me asking for others to be moderated), yet when it
>doesn't turn your way all of a sudden the whole concept is wrong. I am not
>the "moderator" of the group, no one is.  There is no official procedure
>for
>changing the FAQ of the group other than it is the responsibility of the
>Group Host to maintain it as the FAQ states.
>|
>If you have suggestions for changes to the FAQ to be made, then by all
>means
>stop criticizing everyone else and make some useful suggestions. These are
>being run on a "trial" basis for one week as I stated.  If it doesn't work
>out then we'll change them.  Or if someone has a better idea before that,
>we
>can change it.   These aren't set in stone, they are my suggestions for
>improving the group.
>
>Grow up Robert and either participate nicely or go play somewhere else.
>Steven M. Ryckman, ASA Group Host
>Email: sryckman@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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-Graham

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