Re: Silent Knight Selection Tool

[ABLE1 <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 7/25/2022 3:19 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 7/25/2022 5:08 AM, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 7/24/2022 10:14 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>> On 7/23/2022 6:39 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>> On 7/23/2022 9:01 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am challenged with the SKST 1.4v  I have it on a Laptop but when I
>>>>> load all the parts and go to "Battery Calculations" the software won't
>>>>> respond.  I need this version because this is for a SK5820XL Panel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since it is no longer made and or obsolete the newer version of SKST
>>>>> does not give the 5820XL as a choice to load parts.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, my question is does anyone have the 1.4v of SKST or newer but not
>>>>> 2.0v since it only has the new stuff??
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW I had this on my Office PC but it was wiped out when I upgraded
>>>>> to 2.0v a few years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't think I would have to put together a Submittal for a add on
>>>>> to a 5820XL that I installed 11 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any hints or help.
>>>>>
>>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> Well I have working on this problem for at least 6 hours.
>>>> With in 5 minutes of hitting the send button on the above post
>>>> I actually found version 1.5 on my office PC.  I loaded on my
>>>> WIN10 Laptop and the "Battery Calculations" did the same thing
>>>> and locked up the PC.  I then loaded on my older WIN7 Laptop and
>>>> it works just fine. ((^*%%**^#@^%*&^%^(*&!!!
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, I think that I am OK!!!!  Sympathies will be accepted!!!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>
>>>
>>> I was just thinking its been a very very long time since I did a fire
>>> alarm submittal, but I remember doing the calculations by hand from
>>> the individual MFG specs.  I didn't even know there was a calculator.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> I know the the Battery Calc's can be done manually but I never did it
>> that way.  The SKST allows you to choose the panel and all of its
>> expanders, smoke models, heat models, pull stations, Horn Strobes,
>> etc. etc. and THEN it will generate a beautiful spread sheet of
>> the battery calc's.  Yea!!!
>>
>> My current challenge is that I have lost the original file for this
>> project and now have to go back and find all the numbers and parts
>> to put into SKST along with the new for this upgrade.
>>
>> I am getting closer now that I got the program working!!!
>>
>> Call me Spoiled!!!
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>
> I'm reminded of one of the first fire alarm submittals I did. I stopped
> by a local architectural and engineering company to get copies of the
> blue prints.  They handed me a black line blank floor plan and told me I
> could use their big drafting table in the main  floor.  I drew in a fire
> alarm, drew a riser diagram, and pulled calculations from my notes. Then
> they ran blue print copies for me for a buck a sheet.
>
> As opposed to another architect I worked with once.  JUST ONCE.  I
> called to ask for a copy of their floor plan.  They said 3 bucks a
> sheet.  When I arrived I asked for three blank floor plans and they
> proceed to charge me $20 bucks a sheet.  I went from zero to furious in
> about a tenth of a second.  The architect came out and seemed surprised.
>  Â He tried to back pedal and say, "Well if we told you three then we'll
> do three."
>
> I refused.  "If 20 is your price I don't want to owe you anything," as I
> threw cash money on the counter, scooped up the prints, and walked out.
>   A few week later he mailed me a check for the difference.  I sent it
> back voided out.  One of my buddies did a lot of work for that
> architect, and had nothing but good things to say about him so who know.
>  Â I know whenever I bid a job drawn by that architect I made sure in my
> terms it said customer to provide prints to my office by mail or courier
> at their expense.  I had two generals ask me why that term only appeared
> on some of my contracts.  I may or may not have included profanity in my
> explanation.
>
>


Hi Bob,

I understand your frustration with that kind of process.  However, here
I have to provide the architectural drawings plans that are sighed,
sealed and stamped by the architect to include with the submittal for
a permit.  Meaning that the Code Official will not accept a drawing with
my pencil lines on it.

The Architect that I use does a walk thru with me I give him my layout
plan, he draws up everything and prints out the copies I need.  Which
I need 3 copies for Code Official and I get one for me and one for the
customer.  He charges be for his services, the last time was $700.
I bill the customer for that and for my time to put the submittal
documents together in order to get the permit.

I have a walk thru meeting set with him for next Monday morning to
get the plan design set up and started.

Later,

Les