Re: SooooOOOOOOOOOO ?

[Jim Davis <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:45:15 AM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
> On 5/21/2021 11:00 PM, Jim Davis wrote:=20
> > What's goin on with everyone?=20
> > .=20
> > I've got a 2500 sqft single story house under construction. He's a buil=
der and this is going to be their retirement home. All wiring is being brou=
ght back to a utility closet in the office=20
> > .=20
> > I'm doing alarm. No contacts on windows, just audio glass break detecto=
rs in each room with windows. ( That's what they wanted) Contacts on doors.=
 3 Keypads, Four smokes. Using Napco 1664 and DK 1 (blue backlight) keypads=
.=20
> > .=20
> > Four outside cameras, Three in the front ( one looking at the front doo=
r) . One in the back looking at the pool and cabana. I've stopped using Hik=
vision some time ago after they got hacked and I've always felt uneasy abou=
t a Chinese company providing CCTV cameras anyway. Now using a company that=
's become very popular around here called INViD . Make a decent line of cam=
eras and assembled in Mexico or South America someplace (I Think) I like th=
e peer to peer method of mating the cameras to the phone app, rather than h=
aving to do port forwarding and getting into the customers router etc. Once=
 you do that, every time they have a router problem it becomes mine. No mor=
e of that. I wanted to put in more cameras but they think they don't need t=
hem. I know they'll be sorry later but . . . . . . . . .=20
> > .=20
> > I'm Installing Internet/WiFi and Ethernet wiring and doing the setup. U=
sing 2 Ubiquiti UniFi Access points. AP AC PRO 802.11ac plus a Netgear Nigh=
thawk router and 16 port network switch. Ethernet wires to each TV plus var=
ious other locations. Six TV;s Used 2 inch flex tubing from basement to the=
 Bedroom, Living room and Family Room TV's so wires can be pulled to TV's i=
n the future. I'm sure Fiber HDMI cables will be becoming more popular as T=
V's go from 4K to 8k and on up and get faster and faster processors so I wa=
nted to leave access for the future. Other TV's have Ethernet hookup for st=
reaming only.=20
> > .=20
> > One of he TV;s is going to be outdoors on the covered patio with an hon=
est to goodness outdoor rated TV set. In the past I've had customers just p=
ut a regular TV out doors and they take it in in the winter time. They'll l=
ast a few years and then throw it away. I'm Running the interior RG6 for 3 =
cable boxes boxes too. Running the Living room TV and the Patio TV from the=
 same cable box and have to use an HDMI extender for the Patio TV. since th=
ey're about 40 feet apart. I don't want to take a chance with a 50 foot HDM=
I cable and a 50 foot fiber cable cost too much at this point.=20
> > .=20
> > I couldn't get them interested in audio though. I offered a Sonos contr=
olled speaker system inside and for the future around the pool and the pati=
o but they said to hold off, maybe in the future. But I'm sure they have ot=
her more immediate things to spend money on now. Wiring isn't in for the po=
ol and the cabana yet so maybe I'll get it done then.=20
> > .=20
> > Comments and suggestions welcomed.=20
> > How about every one else? Got anything good going on?=20
> >
> Golly Gee Whiz Jim, you be a busy guy!!!=20
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> Comment #1: I don't do Glass Break Detectors anymore unless the=20
> customer can't be talked out of it. Had a few false alarms=20
> and they can't be properly tested with out breaking a window or=20
> two and curtains and such will defeat the purpose.=20
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> Comment #2: Please provide more info on the INVID cameras that you are=20
> using. Are you using WiFi Cameras to the network and app on phone??=20
>=20
> Project #1: Old 4 Story building turned into a 7 unit apartment=20
> building. Installing a Aiphone Intercom system with 2 door stations.=20
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> Project #2: Single house GC2e system no monitoring.=20
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> Project #3: Barn WiFi system to allow video streaming and other=20
> activities. Ubiquity wireless points and network 350+ feet from=20
> the cable modem.=20
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> Beyond that I need to go and mow the grass and other yard work!!!=20
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> Hope all yous' guys' is doin well.=20
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> Later,=20
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> Les
HI Les,

I've been using the GE / Interlogic 5812-RND audio glass break detectors fo=
r a long-long time now and haven't had any problems. Main reasons I like th=
em are They"ve been reliable, the price, and because they're round (easy to=
 mount in any location unlike the rectangular shaped units)  I have their 5=
709 tester which I use (for what it's worth) to test each of the units. Hav=
en't had any false alarms and when I've had occasion to test the units well=
 after installation they work ok. However, I have not had an occasion where=
 they have actually detected an intrusion.=20
When I heard the UTC was shutting down the GE product line I immediately pu=
rchased 50 of the detectors and 50 of the glass break shock sensors.  I fig=
ured that there wouldn't be a replacement for the round units. I kind of fi=
gured right. I think it's Honeywell who now has a round detector but it's m=
ore that twice the price of the GE units. Good move on their part but we'll=
 see if the market will allow them to hold that price for any length of tim=
e. I'm hoping by the time I run out of what I bought there'll be some equiv=
alent replacements available.=20
Most modern homes around here nowdays use the translucent  blinds. No more =
curtains or drapes so that's not a problem. Also, I've told them that if th=
e system is armed and a sound something like breaking glass occurs, even on=
 a TV program, the system can likely trip. They've accepted that.

With regard to the INViD product line, Of course  you can go to Invidtech.c=
om for more info but these are what I've been using so far. Their product l=
ine keeps advancing so I haven't zeroed in on any specific models. I've don=
e about 6 - 7 jobs so far using their equipment. including two commercial s=
ystems. From two cameras residential to 11 cameras commercial. Had to retur=
n two cameras out of about 30/40. no NVR's Pretty sure there's a two year w=
arranty. I'm dealing with a local distributor but I think INViD sells direc=
t also. You'd have to check with them. If you have an Alarmax distributor n=
ear you , they carry the line.=20
Cameras:
 InVid PAR-P8TXIR-LC 8 Megapixel Outdoor IR Turret Camera, 2.8mm Lens, Whit=
e
InVid PAR-P8TXIRA3312F 8 Megapixel IP Plug & Play Outdoor IR Turret Camera,=
 3.3-12mm Lens, white
NVR:=20
InVid PN1A-16X16-2 16 Channels 4K Network Video Recorder with 16 Plug & Pla=
y Ports, No HDD
Camera back box:
 ipm-jb4ac
If  you want my prices, let me know and I'll Email to  you.
I don't and haven't used WiFi cameras. I don't like the fact that they're g=
oing to drop out as soon as there's a network problem. If I ran into a case=
/problem where I had to do it though,
I guess i'd give it a try. But as long as I can talk my clients into the co=
st of hard wire, I continue using it. =20