Re: N.D.A.'s

[ABLE1 <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 5/15/2018 4:15 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 5/15/2018 12:28 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 5/15/2018 2:49 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/15/2018 6:49 AM, RTS wrote:
>>>  > Greetings Group,
>>>  >
>>>  > How many of you have had customers want you to sign a N.D.A.
>>> (non-disclosure agreement)?
>>>  >
>>>  > How did you deal with it or them?
>>>  >
>>>  > After 42 years in the business I had one ask me yesterday for a
>>> N.D.A...
>>>  >
>>>  > I told them this morning I'd never be back..
>>>  >
>>>  > If they didn't trust me, no amount of paper would protect them...
>>>  >
>>>
>>>
>>> I had one client in the 23 years I was a contractor ask for an NDA.
>>> They were developing an improved production line in a competitive
>>> industry. I added a limited five year time period, and a morals
>>> clause that invalidated the agreement, and told them if every manager
>>> present didn't sign and initial the penned in morals clause I was
>>> walking out. It was short and fairly reasonable.  I probably did
>>> 400K-500K in business for or directly because of that customer after
>>> that.
>>>
>>> As a machinist I get people asking for NDAs and IP agreements all the
>>> time.  Most are so restrictive they would theoretically prevent me
>>> from working for anybody but them.  I tell them to go pound sand.  I
>>> also say any IP and or NDA combined longer than 2 pages in large font
>>> will be discarded unread.
>>>
>>> The additional liability agreements that started appearing from
>>> everybody from about the aughts were pretty onerous.  One actually
>>> claimed the right to be able to tell me to fire people in my employ.
>>> I never signed a single one, and I notified every single one that I
>>> would understand if they got somebody else, but if they failed to
>>> honor the terms of their contract they would be liable for all losses
>>> and damages.   Amazingly I kept all the good customers and lost all
>>> the ones who were a huge pain in the ass.  50/50 split right down the
>>> middle.  It improved my profitability to lose the problem customers.
>>>
>>
>> Hey Bob, I thought you were in the middle of welding a bandsaw blade??
>> When do have time to stop in here??  LOL  Welcome back anytime.
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
> I haven't had time to silver braze that blade yet.  Its on my to-do list
> for today though.

"Back in the day"	I found brazing a bandsaw blade tedious.
Always wanted to build the wheel radius in the ends before actually
brazing.  Then we got a bandsaw with a built-in welder. Taaa!!! Daaa!!!