Re: N.D.A.'s

["Bob La Londe" <none@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"ABLE1"  wrote in message news:KiKKC.90987$JJ3.16216@xxxxxxxxxxx

On 5/15/2018 4:15 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 5/15/2018 12:28 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 5/15/2018 2:49 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/15/2018 6:49 AM, RTS wrote:
>>>  > Greetings Group,
>>>  >
>>>  > How many of you have had customers want you to sign a N.D.A.
>>> (non-disclosure agreement)?
>>>  >
>>>  > How did you deal with it or them?
>>>  >
>>>  > After 42 years in the business I had one ask me yesterday for a
>>> N.D.A...
>>>  >
>>>  > I told them this morning I'd never be back..
>>>  >
>>>  > If they didn't trust me, no amount of paper would protect them...
>>>  >
>>>
>>>
>>> I had one client in the 23 years I was a contractor ask for an NDA. They
>>> were developing an improved production line in a competitive industry. I
>>> added a limited five year time period, and a morals clause that
>>> invalidated the agreement, and told them if every manager present didn't
>>> sign and initial the penned in morals clause I was walking out. It was
>>> short and fairly reasonable.  I probably did 400K-500K in business for
>>> or directly because of that customer after that.
>>>
>>> As a machinist I get people asking for NDAs and IP agreements all the
>>> time.  Most are so restrictive they would theoretically prevent me from
>>> working for anybody but them.  I tell them to go pound sand.  I also say
>>> any IP and or NDA combined longer than 2 pages in large font will be
>>> discarded unread.
>>>
>>> The additional liability agreements that started appearing from
>>> everybody from about the aughts were pretty onerous.  One actually
>>> claimed the right to be able to tell me to fire people in my employ. I
>>> never signed a single one, and I notified every single one that I would
>>> understand if they got somebody else, but if they failed to honor the
>>> terms of their contract they would be liable for all losses and damages.
>>> Amazingly I kept all the good customers and lost all the ones who were a
>>> huge pain in the ass.  50/50 split right down the middle.  It improved
>>> my profitability to lose the problem customers.
>>>
>>
>> Hey Bob, I thought you were in the middle of welding a bandsaw blade??
>> When do have time to stop in here??  LOL  Welcome back anytime.
>>
>> Les
>>
>
>
> I haven't had time to silver braze that blade yet.  Its on my to-do list
> for today though.

"Back in the day" I found brazing a bandsaw blade tedious.
Always wanted to build the wheel radius in the ends before actually
brazing.  Then we got a bandsaw with a built-in welder. Taaa!!! Daaa!!!

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To be honest that's not really even on my wish list.  I've got a 4x6 and a
7x12 horizontal.  One or the other sees daily use.  Sometimes all day long.
When I looked up coil stock for the blades I want to use it costs as much
(or more) than welded blades.  The only way it would marginally be
beneficial is if I counted inflation, but then the IRS would tax me on its
asset's capital value anyway.  The only reason I decided to braze this one
was because I ordered it an inch too long and my saw won't take up that much
slack.  Now what I would like is a big vertical with a deep throat, but I
don't need one.  A hydraulic shear would be more useful.