Re: Lying Competition

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 8, 9:58=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Monday, April 8, 2013 3:48:08 PM UTC-4, tourman wrote:
>
> =A0RHC: Jim Rojas and I have worked together for years in unlocking board=
s. He does the US and I do Canada. We have over the years exchanged "secret=
s" of this nature, although I don't pretend to have the breadth of knowledg=
e he does on this subject. BTW, I don't release the lists of installer code=
s...I simply give out the codes to companies calling me directly, provided =
they themselves are not on the list (if they are, they lock boards, and the=
y can go to hell !! I won't give them anything but the one finger salute !!=
) The newest line of DSC panels (1616, 1832) cannot be unlocked because DSC=
 deliberately further encrypted their panels internally...as one party from=
 DSC told me.."every board you unlock is one new board we don't sell"...So =
you have an industry wide situation that is totally self serving to all in =
it, except the eventual customer, who more often than not gets burned by so=
meone in the industry. Jim is correct; this honest, straightforward approac=
h runs counter to the norm in this industry. But that doesn't make it just =
or correct; it just makes the industry and those in it who practice this di=
sreputable practice a little more dishonest than many of them already are..=
. >
>
> Hmmm I can see it now ........... a new marketing approach.
>
> "We DO lock you out of your alarm system like all the other companies but=
 but unlike them, we will unlock it in the future, should we no longer be d=
oing business" .......
>
> "So, let us do your installation because we are LESS Dishonest then our c=
ompetition."
>
> Heeyyy ..... I like it! .... I like it!

RHC: I know you and I disagree on a lot of things Jim; however, your
"tongue in cheek" comments above have an  unfortunate ring of truth to
them. I've joked with many others that to be head and shoulders above
the crowd in this industry, all you have to do is be honest and
straightforward with clients and do the job properly as you say you
will. That is a sad reflection on our industry but we are not alone in
that regard. Every industry has the same problem.

Organizations like CANASA up here, that purport to represent the
security industry are nothing but self serving shills to various other
organizations. Take the drive to bring licensing to various provinces
that have none in this business. All agree it is long overdue and
needed to bring stability and quality control to alarm installations.
So the corrupt Quebec government, along with the equally corrupt
Quebec trade unions, along with major players like ADT who consult,
bring out licensing control that serves ONLY to keep Ontario business
out of Quebec. You now need a $2000 annual business license along with
$100 a year annual license per employee, plus a "bricks and mortar"
office on Quebec, otherwise you are not allowed to operate in any
fashion there. This conveniently keeps all small alarm companies from
working in Quebec (although Quebec companies can work here in Ontario)
at risk of a $5000 per incident fine if you are even caught over their
in an official capacity. Nothing about necessary competence in this
licensing scheme - only restrictive trade practice - and of course
large companies like ADT are smiling all the way to the bank.

I'm sure this same sort of shit will be going on long after I'm
pushing up daisies, but I and my son will continue to oppose this sort
of abuse of customers (him long after I've faded from this business).
Society will get the sort of service they deserve, only if others
continue to argue against this dishonesty and abuse.