Re: Alarm Farce...

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On May 25, 6:53=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On May 23, 5:52=A0pm, Frank Olson
>
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> <use_the_email_li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On 17/05/2010 11:00 PM, mleuck wrote:
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> > > On May 17, 8:10 pm, tourman<robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
> > >> On May 17, 7:28 pm, mleuck<m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> > >>> On May 16, 12:13 pm, tourman<robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> =A0wrote:
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> > >>>> RHC: Unfortunately, you and I discussing something like this we bo=
th
> > >>>> totally agree on is like the "minister preaching to the converted"=
.
> > >>>> The really sad part is how unsophisticated consumers are taken in =
by
> > >>>> all the phoney marketing hype.
>
> > >>>> At least when you have taken no security precautions, you know it =
and
> > >>>> can accommodate to a degree for it. However, when you are sold =A0=
crap
> > >>>> and lead to believe you have a real measure of security, you end u=
p
> > >>>> fooling yourself with a false sense of security. That's really sad=
.....
>
> > >>> That's awful harsh Robert, you'd think they were ADT or something..=
.
>
> > >> RHC: ADT are saints compared to Alarm Force. ADT is a legitimate
> > >> company, and basically a good one (on the commercial and large
> > >> government side anyway), but Alarm Force....well....wait until they
> > >> come south and then tell me you don't agree....:))
>
> > > Not that I know much about the actual system but can you tell me any
> > > instance where one of their installations failed during a real
> > > burglary?
>
> > I actually have two customers with "Alarmfarce" systems that were broke=
n
> > into. =A0Both had a single door contact on the front door and an invert=
ed
> > motion mounted 3.5 feet above the floor (pet resistance at it's best??)=
.
> > =A0 Scum broke into a back door, took the phone off hook so the system
> > couldn't dial out. =A0These guys went out of their way to hit "AlarmFar=
ce
> > Protected Homes". =A0It doesn't take much in the way of research to fin=
d
> > out exactly what you're buying and where the system has it's weak
> > points. =A0Both customers were "locked" in to three year contracts and
> > both wound up paying them off just to get their krap out of their house=
s.
>
> > Shortly after the first customer came over to us, we moved into a new
> > house that was pre-wired. =A0A week before our move, I called AlarmFarc=
e
> > (and a couple of others) to see what they were going to pitch at me.
> > The basic system (at that time) was a single door contact and what they
> > called a "pet proof" motion sensor. =A0It also came with their "famous"
> > voice activated alarm box. =A0Our house is on two levels. =A0If they
> > installed their "box" in the kitchen, my wife could be screaming "blue
> > murder" in the master bedroom and the operator wouldn't hear a thing.
> > The biggest surprise came when I asked if I could arrange for a securit=
y
> > survey. =A0AlarmFarce doesn't do that. =A0All their "sales" are over th=
e
> > phone. =A0The first AlarmFarce guy you see after you make arrangements =
for
> > the installation is the "technician".
>
> > Here's the "catch". =A0If you express "concern" over the lack of covera=
ge,
> > they offer to "upgrade you" and that's when the "no fee installation"
> > starts costing you big bucks. =A0$80.00 for an additional door contact,
> > $180.00 for a motion, $200 for a glass break. =A0They're using
> > unsupervised krap that's been "reboxed".
>
> > They are successful because the buying public is inundated with their
> > ads on practically every radio station you care to name and there isn't
> > anything (or anyone) with a counter to their spiel. =A0They spend a
> > fortune on advertising (which is probably cheaper for them than
> > employing a sales farce).
>
> > It's unfortunate that a lot of people wind up falling into the "myth"
> > that they're the "most trusted name in home security". =A0Poppycock!
>
> > --
> > My wife says women are angels. =A0And even when us guys manage to clip
> > their wings, they'll keep right on flying... =A0on their broomsticks.
>
> RHC: Frank, one of my contacts in the locksmith trade used to be a
> "technician" for Alarm Force. His requirement was to install 10
> systems a day, which he did until he could no longer stomach it !
> So you have to ask how much training does the average customer get on
> how his "alarm system" works ?

Out of curiosity and because their web page doesn't mention it what
brand of equipment do they actually use?